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Goodbye Site Explorer
After Almost 10 Years...
rustybrick




msg:4337737
 10:23 pm on Jul 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

Yahoo announced the end of Site Explorer this weekend at [ysearchblog.com...]

It will be closed down this year. Yahoo recommends you use Microsoft's Bing Webmaster Tools.

Yahoo will continue to use Slurp, their crawler, on some occasions.

 

Robert Charlton




msg:4337852
 4:29 am on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Thanks Barry, and sorry to see it go. It's been threatening to disappear intermittently for a while now.

I'm doubting that the Bing tools will provide much competitive intelligence. For tools that had depended on Yahoo data, the Yahoo Search Blog notes....
Will the Site Explorer APIs be shut down?

The APIs were scheduled to be shut down at the end of last year, but the timeframe has been extended for the YDN Site Explorer API up until September 15, 2011.

The blog post also says...
Although the organic results will be powered by Microsoft Search platforms, Yahoo! will continue to innovate on the search experience beyond the services delivered by Microsoft. In order to provide Yahoo! users with an amazing search experience, our slurp crawlers may continue to selectively crawl websites to help support these efforts.

It's unlikely that competitive backlink data is high on this list.

briggidere




msg:4337877
 6:54 am on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Does anyone has recommendations for a decent replacement?

sem4u




msg:4337900
 11:32 am on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I will be sad to see this tool go, and I have used it for many years to check backlinks of sites that I have been working on and those of competitors. Will Bing's webmaster tools allow you to view competitor backlinks?

I have been using Open Site Explorer recently (works best with and SEOMoz Pro subscription) so I will continue to use that.

fom2001uk




msg:4337902
 11:57 am on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I use Majestic SEO and Open Site Explorer. But Yahoo Site Explorer will be missed :-(

randle




msg:4337923
 1:51 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Thats a bummer, it was a great tool; certainly a stark contrast to the Google disinformation on back links.

brotherhood of LAN




msg:4337960
 2:46 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'm surprised they don't just have a Ģ200-Ģ300/month tool that is purely about backlinks, surely it would be economical and they already have the expertise there.

Oh well...

Sgt_Kickaxe




msg:4337973
 3:21 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

It WAS a great tool, I agree Randle, but it made no money for Yahoo/Bing and so they'd prefer to ferry us off to their 'product'.

Google's backlink tool is completely inadequate for most users, I agree again Randle, they intentionally do not show you most of what you want to know.

There are some extremely solid other sources however, your favorite SEO specialist site likely has one (some mentioned above). My concern is that when a company earns it's living by having more data than the next guy, a la Google/Bing etc, they will not want you to have/get the data elsewhere.

Data is what makes the search engines valuable, they'll notice when you can bypass them to get it.

wheel




msg:4337976
 3:29 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I have been using Open Site Explorer recently (works best with and SEOMoz Pro subscription) so I will continue to use that.

I just had a look, their free version seems to work well enough for my purposes.

the tool isn't just a good/great tool. It's also a perfect example of how to get quality backlinks. All the people that suggest you can't get links in competitive industries like SEO? Or you can't get links from your competitors? There's a public example right there of how to do it.

vrottenstein




msg:4337995
 4:05 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Yahoo Site Explorer was great!, and it will be a sad day in SEO history :(

SEOMoz and Majestic are not exact replacements and both of them aren't so good for international crawling so I will be missing YSE...

Hoople




msg:4338002
 4:18 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

vrottenstein - agree and good point on the international.

Today a domain in one of my niches was offered to me. Actually a niche of a niche in a bigger niche. So I checked the back links in Yahoo SE - 155; in SEOMoz OSE - 46. A few percent here or there is understandable but this difference is HUGE!

Anyone else seeing major differences?

lfgoal




msg:4338085
 7:18 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I use OSE and majestic also. But they're not great alternatives. Site explorer will be sorely missed. Guess I better do as much competitor/link target hunting as I can before it takes a final dive.

lfgoal




msg:4338086
 7:22 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Have to say it: Yahoo and Carol Bartz are just sad, sad, sad. The woman has absolutely zero vision and the company, through her "leadership" is losing every bit of its soul.

Sgt_Kickaxe




msg:4338154
 9:45 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Majestic seems to be showing a declining trend in incoming links for all websites. No tool is perfect but you use the best you have as best you can for best results, right?

Cruxo




msg:4338176
 11:14 pm on Jul 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I find that YSE tends to only display certain types of backlinks and do not display others. Over the time I managed to secure some good contextual backlinks from high-authority publications such as newspapers, magazines, BUT rarely find them in the list of backlinks exported from YSE.

Anyone experienced the same thing? If so, why would that be?

vrottenstein




msg:4338495
 1:49 pm on Jul 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

The same for me Cruxo, I think they are not showing us the whole picture.

RhinoFish




msg:4338531
 3:10 pm on Jul 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

goodbye Site Explorer, i'll miss you badly.

zehrila




msg:4338555
 4:24 pm on Jul 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

It is a really sad news, its a great tool and such a shame that they have to take it down, i can totally see this shall leave devastating impact on results.

In a recent PR update a network of directories attained millions of back links, most of the were hacked and placed on high PR sites, but people figured out using siteexplorer, now its going to blind fold people and you cannot see if the place you are submitting your link into is good enough.

This is a good news for Seomoz and Majestic and other similar tools, i will have to buy subscriptions again.

Cruxo & vrottenstein:: Are you sure you are applying proper filters? there are search filters on top right section.

imanand




msg:4338560
 4:43 pm on Jul 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

Just wait and watch, How everything workout by Bing and presented to SEOs and Webmasters.

Cruxo




msg:4338740
 12:05 am on Jul 13, 2011 (gmt 0)

@zehrila: Yes the correct filters are applied.

EvilSaint




msg:4338752
 1:00 am on Jul 13, 2011 (gmt 0)

Really sad to see YSE being decommissioned...
The comprehensive backlink check will be sorely missed!

SEOsoon




msg:4338890
 9:26 am on Jul 13, 2011 (gmt 0)

I also doubt that there will be an equivalent implementation by Bing, we will see. They were already some rumors about the close down of YSE and I think yahoo didnīt work round to enhance it. Nevertheless, Yahoo Site Explorer is one of the few free seo tools I really appreciate.

np2003




msg:4339275
 11:12 pm on Jul 13, 2011 (gmt 0)

Damn, all the good tools are going... Site Explorer, before that alltheweb backlink chceker... Maybe Y! should charge for this? I bet they will get a few thousand SEO firms paying to use it...

diddlydazz




msg:4339951
 1:21 pm on Jul 15, 2011 (gmt 0)

great tool, part of my regular routine

sad to see it go!

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