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Yahoo To Join The Real-Time Search Gang
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msg:4040885
 8:16 pm on Dec 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yahoo To Join The Real-Time Search [news.cnet.com]
Days after Google announced its plan for integrating content from sources such as Twitter and blogs, Yahoo on Thursday plans to launch its own feature to integrate tweets into search results. Microsoft already displays Twitter results for queries placed on its Bing search engine, although they displayed on a separate page that is not directly integrated into the main search results.

Yahoo will join Google witih integrated results as of Thursday, said Larry Cornett, vice president of product management and design at the company. But in a crucial difference between the two approaches, Yahoo has not cut a deal with Twitter for access to the "firehose," an automated feed of data from Twitter. Instead, it's using Twitter's public API and adding its own algorithms to figure out which tweets are most relevant to the query.


 

martinibuster




msg:4041220
 8:39 am on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Google's approach might result in more data for research?

jecasc




msg:4041228
 9:00 am on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

I don't like Real Time search.

Real Time Search = Gossip Search.

I did a search for Barack Obama on Google and get a tweet where someone tells me its great to live in Oslo because where else do you see Madonna, Lady Gaga and Barack Obama.

What the ...?

Where can I opt out of this madness?

On every search engine I can do search in images only, videos only, shopping results only, news only - and when I wanted to search websites only I used to go on the main page. Now there is no "website search only" anymore.

Everywhere I look the SERPS turn into giant garbage dumps where the search engines pour out all the garbage they have collected from various sources.

I can understand that everyone wants a piece of each cake: image search, twitter, myspace, news... there is so much you can search. But is it really necessary to display all the results on one page?

[edited by: jecasc at 9:26 am (utc) on Dec. 11, 2009]

callivert




msg:4041230
 9:07 am on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Everywhere I look the SERPS turn into giant garbage dumps

But web 2.0 is the future, man.

sudden




msg:4041285
 11:51 am on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

lol, nice one, callivert. ;)

Andem




msg:4041293
 12:42 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

I simply can't understand the fad that is Twitter. The fact that Google is including Twitter in it's main search results is just astounding.

In my view, with the inclusion of micro-blogging in search results, the quality of Google's web search product has deteriorated drastically.

frontpage




msg:4041297
 1:00 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Real time search by Yahoo would be great if they actually would index websites to begin with. How many websites I run across on Yahoo only have the index page and nothing else spidered.

Angelis




msg:4041298
 1:01 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Its a fad thats been around for 3 1/2 years, I would get used to it if I were you. I personally only signed up to it recently.

If you cant beat em, join em!

Edge




msg:4041314
 1:33 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

In my view, with the inclusion of micro-blogging in search results, the quality of Google's web search product has deteriorated drastically.

I wonder if GG will have a separate search catagory. Maybe it will be:

"Images Videos Maps Mindless-Garbage News .."

jecasc




msg:4041321
 1:38 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Its a fad thats been around for 3 1/2 years, I would get used to it if I were you. I personally only signed up to it recently.

I do not have anything against twitter. It has its uses. But including tweets into the SERPS?

So when I search for "Tiger Woods" I can see results like: "OMFG. What's the diff btween tiger woods & santa? Santa stops at 3 ho's. LOL!"

O tempora o mores!

StoutFiles




msg:4041335
 2:11 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

I like to imagine Web 2.0 as the first scene of 2001: A Space Odyssey. We discover the monolith (Twitter, Facebook, etc) and then start jumping around shrieking all at once.

However, in this example we devolve as opposed to the movie.

ponyboy96




msg:4041339
 2:15 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'm not a fan of Real time search. It just looks like a ton of noise on the page. I did a search for Tiger Woods yesterday just to see what this looked like. It seriously looks like garbage on the page. Just a ton of noise and gossip from Twitter.

Edge




msg:4041354
 2:39 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

"Gossip Web"

There's an idea!

J_RaD




msg:4041419
 3:55 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

these sites should be blocked from SERPs not ADDED!
nothing of value or knowledge come from these sites!

web 2.0 - the dumbing down of the internet.

davelms




msg:4041495
 5:29 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

My experience thus far of Google including Twitter has been positive. The 'tweets' included were only those that had a url embedded, and Google had expanded any short.url to show me both the page title and the full link. I didn't get any of the 'dumb tweets', and those that had no click through url were automatically excluded, so it was all very highly targetted to the searches I was doing and provided me with a list of relevant, up to date new links to dig into for the latest content on the topic. So positive so far, but we'll see. I can see its spam potential though, although I would hope Google contain that.

Edit - not yet encountered the Yahoo! version.

walkman




msg:4041544
 6:38 pm on Dec 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Admitting that they failed and twitter /facebook are better? Or just supplementing them

mcneely




msg:4042179
 2:52 am on Dec 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

The fact that Google is including Twitter in it's main search results is just astounding.

Don't be too astounded mate .. I'm of the opinion that this is what search engines do when they've exhausted all other more productive areas of search.

Why settle for the best, when you can settle for the rest?

Listing social networking comments about how many times you've washed the car park in a week, IMO, is an epic fail on Google.

walkman




msg:4042542
 1:22 am on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

(made up search) Results 1 - 10 of about 9,825,520 from donuts in 12345 Zip

Google serves : "Just had 3 donuts. No wonder my butt getting bigger. hahahaha."

How does that help me?

I agree with Frontpage on Yahoo, they are #@^&$%^%#$%^$%*&^%$$! One mistake 10 years ago and hardly anyone gets back in (maybe a non profit might.) Now sites have 10 times as much spam, /link issues but harder to spot than in 1990's.

So I don't lose any sleep over their problems.

Hugene




msg:4042585
 3:19 am on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I was served by a micro-blogging (Twitter) search results box or surface (not too sure how to best describe this) on one of my Google searches a couple of days ago.

First, I completely agree, this is a tremendous failure from G, as these tweets can not in any way contain valuable content.

But Bing did it, and you can never fall behind in the web business.

And tonight another idea struck me: MFAS? are Google SERPS becoming MFAS? Basically, this 'twitter result box' is a complete SERPS real-estate waste; they take the room of about 2-3 webpage results. But they're garbage. What do you do when there is too much garbage on the page? You click the (paid-for) sponsored link.

Anyways, G should take a stance against this 'web 2.0' craziness and remove these tweets from the SERPS.

But on the technical side, the tweets in the SERPS was amazing, because they were actually being updated 'live' with a little scroll bar available to look at the slowly down-moving tweets. Pretty fancy AJAX, and pretty fancy real-time tweets indexing.

Asia_Expat




msg:4042775
 3:20 pm on Dec 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I don't know what to say about this... I think a comment from one of my forum members today, sums thing up perfectly...

any way i can get all this twitter $#ite out of my google searches?

Seb7




msg:4043422
 2:02 pm on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think yahoo is quite prepared. I submitted a nice website to Google and Bing last week, still not index, yet Yahoo somehow already found it and indexed within hours.

justin0125




msg:4063599
 3:45 pm on Jan 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

I think yahoo is quite prepared.

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