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tonynoriega




msg:3857868
 10:44 pm on Feb 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

yahoo has me indexed as example.com, not www.example.com.

i dont see any webmaster tools to correct this...

what happened and how can i fix it?

 

robzilla




msg:3858052
 7:27 am on Feb 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

Are you properly (301) redirecting example.com to www.example.com? Do all other search engines have you indexed with the www?

tonynoriega




msg:3858224
 3:03 pm on Feb 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

ughh welcome to my issue... ill try not to duplicate.

http://example.com is a 302 temp redirect to http://www.example.com/index.asp

NOW, when i asked my web admin to set the example.com folder to a 301 NOT a 302, he said ok...

then came back to me and said we do not have a folder for example.com.

so where is this 302 coming from on our IIS server?

piatkow




msg:3858276
 3:54 pm on Feb 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

Maybe this is a chance to try out the canonical tag

jdMorgan




msg:3858296
 4:15 pm on Feb 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

Instead of fooling arouns with semi-proprietary solutions, and continuing to fight this problem week after week, I'd suggest getting back on the phone with your host, and asking to "escalate" the problem to the next-higher level of support. The answers you are getting from them so far indicate that they don't know what they're doing and cannot properly understand the problem or even discuss it with you.

A 302 redirect can be 'deadly' as far as getting your site indexed the way you want it to be indexed; Last year, we spent gigabytes of disk space here discussing "302 hijacking" problems. You need to talk to someone at your hosting company that can set up a proper 301 redirect from non-www to www. And failing that, it may well be time to start looking for a new host; This is not a "hard" problem technically, and it should be simple for a competent server admin to fix for you.

Best,
Jim

dusky




msg:3858882
 4:33 am on Feb 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

302 is temp redirect and would be regarded as temporary, which means you are likely to have that reversed sometime soon, so they ignore you 302 htaccess file. All search engines will continue indexing and placing the page as it was and do not change it. BUT 301 redirect is permanent and says to the search engines delete the old copy and replace it with the new copy, be it a whole site www.***.com, or ***.com or even a single page ***.com/singlepage.html.

Yahoo is known to mess up even with a proper 301 redirect and carry on listing the old page/s, in some cases this is probably a penalty. Did you have any sub-domains, example: subdomaine1.***.com, subdomain2.***.com etc, that can be a pain with yahoo to get them to change from ***.com to www.***.com in my experience. For some reason, they ignore proper 301 htaccess file requests and headers to change from non-www to www when the domain has or had in the past subdomains. If you have sites that are linking to you using the non-www, yahoo seem to keep listing that even if you have a proper 301 redirect to the www. You should have access to a control panel like cPanel to manage your hosting. you can set up 301 permanent redirect yourself, if your host does not have such a thing, they are not proper hosts and should urgently change to a proper one. Even if you are using free hosting, they should give you at least a limited access to a control panel nowadays.

PM me if you need any further help!

StoutFiles




msg:3858908
 5:47 am on Feb 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

You can 301 from your .htaccess file.

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^example.com
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.example.com/$1 [R=301,L]

tonynoriega




msg:3859196
 2:54 pm on Feb 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

Well i have to say... i may be some of the first actual results that the canonical tag works.

Yahoo, now has me listed as www.example.com in all querys in their serps....

tonynoriega




msg:3859355
 6:36 pm on Feb 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

ok, continuing this issue...

first note. this is not an external hosting company, these are my own web admins downstairs.. we host our own sites.

in regards to http://example.com re-directing to http://www.example.com/index.asp and returnign a 302 temporary re-direct header...

when i right click > properties for the website www.example.com and under the "Web Site" tab. Next to "web site identification", i click "advanced" .

this brings up another window, advanced web site identification, and i have the following entries:
***************************************************************
IP__________TCP Port_____________Host Header Value
default______80
default______80__________________www.example.com
default______80__________________example.com
***************************************************************

what is this about?

tonynoriega




msg:3859489
 9:19 pm on Feb 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

here is what i get returned when i check the server header for http://example.com

HTTP/1.1 302 Object moved
Connection: close
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:17:44 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
Location: http://www.example.com/index.asp
Content-Length: 153
Content-Type: text/html
Expires: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:16:44 GMT
Set-Cookie: ASPSESSIONIDSSRQTRRD=EALDIKCAICNNCNMFLGKKDOLP; path=/
Cache-control: no-cache

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