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Yahoo Update April 2008
Update?
jgold454




msg:3624825
 6:38 pm on Apr 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am noticing some changes/shuffling going on in my niche. Anyone else?

 

textex




msg:3624961
 10:02 pm on Apr 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

yup....

textex




msg:3624964
 10:10 pm on Apr 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I did some more thorough investigating and these results are really bad....

BillyS




msg:3625101
 2:30 am on Apr 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yahoo is like clockwork, pretty much rolling out a new update every 4-5 weeks. This update was right on time. The last one was announced on March 3rd.

We lost about 50% of our Y! traffic during the last update and we noticed a nice lift today.

jgold454




msg:3625119
 3:23 am on Apr 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am getting different results when searching from www.yahoo.com and my yahoo search in my firefox toolbar...

FrankWeb




msg:3625448
 6:58 pm on Apr 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Looks like an update to me. See wiki pages climbing to the top for many results. Why do they even want for each term a wiki to turn up. If I want a wiki explanation or information, I'll go to it myself. I find it a step back for search results.

BillyS




msg:3626631
 6:37 pm on Apr 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yahoo typically confirms an update mid way through. We've regained everything we lost during the last update.

internetheaven




msg:3626633
 6:38 pm on Apr 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

I did some more thorough investigating and these results are really bad....

UK searches seem to be giving lots of value to keywords in the URL. Thought MSN were the only ones daft enough to go down that road?

randle




msg:3626694
 8:01 pm on Apr 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

I really don't know why they bother with these updates.

travelin cat




msg:3626857
 10:46 pm on Apr 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

All of the gains that my travel site has made over the last couple of months in Yahoo are mostly gone now.

edd1




msg:3626957
 1:18 am on Apr 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

"See wiki pages climbing to the top for many results. Why do they even want for each term a wiki to turn up."

Because there's no point in Wiki sites being on lower pages. G and Y both want sites to pay for traffic so put useless cases (financially) high up and make everyone else pay.

Don't forget Google and Yahoo may well be hatching joint strategies at the moment. Call me a conspiracy theorist but it makes a lot of sense to me.

[edited by: edd1 at 2:06 am (utc) on April 15, 2008]

dertyfern




msg:3626978
 2:04 am on Apr 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Good results for us. We released a ton of new content a few weeks ago and much of it is ranking well.

deepakmmt




msg:3627028
 3:07 am on Apr 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think yahoo is manipulating the results by putting more and more paid links in between the SERPS

internetheaven




msg:3627132
 7:21 am on Apr 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Wow! These are awful! Looks like they are still turning the volume up on URL matches. There was even a keyphrase.me.uk with no real content or backlinks ranking above .coms with hundreds of backlinks and pages of unique content. Time to head down to the domain auctions and pick up some spammy domains ...

tyke




msg:3627178
 8:53 am on Apr 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think yahoo is manipulating the results by putting more and more paid links in between the SERPS

is this could be?

shorebreak




msg:3627668
 8:45 pm on Apr 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

deepakmmt, what makes you think Yahoo's inserting more paid links (Y!SearchSubmitPro, I presume) in their organic results?

albertlg




msg:3631342
 7:57 am on Apr 21, 2008 (gmt 0)

BillyS: I've lost 50% of my traffic too with Yahoo!...

- What did you do to regain all the traffic?
- How much time does it take?

Thank you!

martinibuster




msg:3631826
 10:25 pm on Apr 21, 2008 (gmt 0)

Weather Report Issued on the Y Blog [ysearchblog.com].

Over the next few days, we'll be rolling out some changes to our crawling, indexing and ranking algorithms. While we expect the update will be completed soon, as you know, throughout this process you may see some ranking changes and page shuffling in the index.

supafresh




msg:3633205
 1:58 pm on Apr 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

my site is falling like anywhere from 5-20 positions including first position serps. Gonna have to keep an eye on this one.

[edited by: martinibuster at 6:52 am (utc) on May 1, 2008]
[edit reason] Spelling. [/edit]

Asia_Expat




msg:3639234
 6:43 am on May 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

I noticed a 35-40 percent increase in traffic from Yahoo about a week ago.

Hissingsid




msg:3639407
 1:34 pm on May 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

Used to be #1 on Yahoo for a few terms now back by 8 to 25 places.

Have lost my own titles and descriptions for many pages and now have Yahoo directory titles and descriptions instead.

Anyone else noticed this sort of thing recently? Or am I a marked man?

Cheers

Sid

supafresh




msg:3639674
 6:02 pm on May 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

it might have something to do with repeated use of H1 keyphrase on page. I know pages i didnt use this didnt drop. anyone else got some ideas?

hazardtomyself




msg:3639989
 1:10 am on May 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm not sure what it is. In the competitive space I'm in, I've noticed a Yahoo (subdomain.yahoo.com/etc.) serp at the #3 spot. Out of nowhere amid some other very out of place sites. How convenient. I don't know about this one. I personally never been a conspiracy theorist but this makes me wonder.

dertyfern




msg:3640073
 4:01 am on May 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

supafresh,

just to offer an alternative to your comment on H1 potentially causing drops: we use them an have seen improvements. for whatever that's worth.

toprock




msg:3640144
 7:08 am on May 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

The H1 theory is out for us as well. I have h1 using sites ranked at the top or near the top.

I really believe that we are not seeing the same algo applied for all keyword SERPs. It does not matter if you are going for local keywords or more broad ones. Different cities and industry are seeing different algos applied. I am quite serious about that observation. Some of the cities and broader terms I track make perfect sense. Others make absolutely no sense at all and wouldn't to anyone in the SEO field.

It also appears that the weighting of domain names has factored its way back into things more extensively. AND here I thought MSN was the only player in that arena. OOPS ;-)

Hissingsid




msg:3640159
 7:51 am on May 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Could it be keyword prominence or density in say the first 200 words. I've tweaked this up on some pages with good effect on Google but not Yahoo.

H1 would have a large effect on prominence.

Cheers

Sid

KSteele36




msg:3721484
 9:51 pm on Aug 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

In Reply To Sid's Entry:

Used to be #1 on Yahoo for a few terms now back by 8 to 25 places.
Have lost my own titles and descriptions for many pages and now have Yahoo directory titles and descriptions instead.

Anyone else noticed this sort of thing recently? Or am I a marked man?

Cheers

Sid

***********************************************

Yes! I have the same problem Sid.... I have recently had several long standing #1 positions fall down the Yahoo SERPs for pages I consider to be less "organically optimized" while at approximately the same time I shot to the top of Google... go figure.

Both MSN & Yahoo SERPs have fallen enough without script changes from my side that I suspect the latter to be true (inserting paid sites to the organic serps) without so much as a kiss... now with top level SERPs in Google for the same pages, i'm afraid to make changes for fear of falling off #1 rated Google :>( What's an SEO to do... LoL

[edited by: KSteele36 at 9:53 pm (utc) on Aug. 12, 2008]

seo_pg




msg:3732804
 9:56 pm on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yahoo does and has been putting their SSP (Search Submit Pro) links above organic for some time now. They'll tell you they don't until they're blue in the face, but it's a load of crap.

shorebreak




msg:3732815
 10:20 pm on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

seo_pg,

I want to make sure I understand you. You're saying that Yahoo's been inserting their SSP into organic position #1 for some time?

My understanding was that SSP was inserted into the SERPs based on an overall relevancy/ranking algo that Yahoo uses and which doesn't distinguish between organic and SSP listings. Is that assumption incorrect, and if so what data do you have to support that contention?

-Shorebreak

supermanu




msg:3733036
 4:01 am on Aug 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

Sid and KSteele36,

I have exactly the same problem as you

URLS are displayed but no title or whatsoever... catastrophic drop in results

I added my site to Yahoo! Site Explorer 2 days ago https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com and authorized it

Today I see that some of my key URLS have been re-crawled and are now correctly displaying the title instead of only the URL as before... page crawled on 26th of August

This looks better to me, the position in Yahoo! search has not changed yet... I hope it will be better soon

Any of you have the same problem but seen his position in Yahoo! search improved?

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