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Site Meets Yahoo Search Submit Basic Guidelines
But Hit Hard in Organic Search
SEOold




msg:3405608
 8:32 pm on Jul 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have a site that does really well in Google for very competitive terms. Our Alexa rank is 3K and we have over 100K pages. The issue that I have is with Yahoo. Last April 2006 the site was hit really hard in Yahoo SERPS and we completely disappeared from the search results. Didnít rank for competitive terms, non competeitive terms, or long tail keywords. I was able to find us for the title tag search for some of the pages including the homepage. Also the index of pages stayed the same.

I filed for re-inclusion and didnít hear anything back from them as most of us donít. The email which I received was to go over their guidelines. Now I went over the guidelines rigorously once again and I did not see anything that the site and its pages might be in violation and non-compliance of. I then submitted the second inclusion by stating each of their points in the guidelines and explaining that we indeed pass each one. I also explained to them that we made changes where it might be an issue. I still did not hear from them.

Later this year they came out with the Search Submit Basic. I basically have tried everything so I figured I might as well try this. The guidelines are the same for SSB and Web Organic Search. In matter of two days 5 URLs were approved. From this the only thing that I can conclude is that we do meet the guidelines because they are same for both, itís possible that the site might have needed some editorial review which it was not getting.

With the SSB program you can only submit up to 5 URLs after that you need to join the Search Submit Pro which is CPC basis. If I know I meet the guidelines why would I join the SSP.

April this year at the Search Engine Strategy Show in NY, I met with Sean Suchter and Amit Kumar and discussed the issue with them. They both said they would look into the situation as it didnít sound right. Sean said ďthere should be no reason why I would be able to submit through SSB but was not included in organic when the guidelines are the sameĒ. He did mention that I might have been able to go through SSB and received individual attention and why the site was OK.

Again I emailed him a few times never heard from him and never heard from Amit Kumar as well. Itís the usual from Yahoo guys as I can assume there busy and Iím sure they were approached by so many people with their concerns or issues.

Iím at a lost here and really not sure what to do. The 5 URLs submitted rank well and again for very competitive terms.

The option that we have is to start another site just for Yahoo, but this would be a big project and the ability to manage two similar sites as well as other issues. Before we actually decide to take this route I was wondering how you all feel about this and if you have any suggestions for me. Is there anything else that I can do to get feedback from Yahoo on the situation.

 

zklin




msg:3418982
 4:01 pm on Aug 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

I am quite confused/disapointed with Yahoo.
My site is quite old (more than 8 yrs). I am not writing url here (i do not know it is alowed ...). In Google my site is the first if somebody search city name (city portal, nothing commercial, nor offensive...). It is logical as it's main, oldest, etc city portal, officialy suported by local administration. Google shows abt 15,000 indexed pages, but Yahoo shows only one indexed.

We do not like to spam Yahoo or make anything illegal or oposite to SE rules. So we try best we know to solve problem. A few times in last 2 years i was kindly asking Yahoo support 'what's wrong' but they not answering at all.

How to meet Yahoo criteria if
a) Y guides are to general
b) no qualified response to questions

?

This way qualified information about my city is 'censored' by Yahoo.

SEOold




msg:3422977
 4:45 pm on Aug 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

zklin - I would try asking your questions in Yahoo site explorer. Its seems like Yahoo employees provide feedback on many questions. After my post here I did the same. They responded back to what I was in violation of. What makes me mad is that I could have been searching for the casue forever because I didn't even know it existed. I'm currently waiting for a re-review. Hope this helps you.

pop3




msg:3423660
 12:35 pm on Aug 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

i think google search is best

supafresh




msg:3425125
 8:47 pm on Aug 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

i think google search is best

best reply of the year.


April this year at the Search Engine Strategy Show in NY, I met with Sean Suchter and Amit Kumar and discussed the issue with them. They both said they would look into the situation as it didnít sound right. Sean said ďthere should be no reason why I would be able to submit through SSB but was not included in organic when the guidelines are the sameĒ. He did mention that I might have been able to go through SSB and received individual attention and why the site was OK.

Sounds like your penalized for something and ssb wont help.

SEOold




msg:3426922
 3:16 pm on Aug 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

We are no longer penalized. After working with Yahoo for several weeks we are now compliant with their guidelines.

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