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Search Update July 23, 2007
Jimville




msg:3400526
 11:53 pm on Jul 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yahoo announced a search update on their Search Blog [ysearchblog.com] yesterday.

[edited by: martinibuster at 5:41 pm (utc) on July 23, 2007]
[edit reason] Added link to the Yahoo Search Blog. [/edit]

 

lgn1




msg:3402168
 4:09 pm on Jul 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

From what I can decipher from the latest update:

a) weight for age of site has increased
b) weight for directory listings have decreased

Any thoughts?

martinibuster




msg:3402235
 5:16 pm on Jul 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well, the SERPs look great in some places. But one search I found a single site dominating five of the top ten with it's subdomains. :(

rogerd




msg:3402282
 6:18 pm on Jul 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Is it just me, or is Wikipedia even more prominent than in the past?

idolw




msg:3402333
 7:22 pm on Jul 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

heh, one of my sites took 3 out of top 10 positions for a very popular general travel term in English.
Looks like I do like $hit :)

BillyS




msg:3402685
 2:44 am on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

I thought I was getting more traffic (20% increase) from this update but things seem to have reverted back to more normal levels.

carguy84




msg:3402973
 11:30 am on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yawhoo? ;)

I see no changes in my sector yet. It can only get better so I'll watch intently :).

new_seo




msg:3402976
 11:43 am on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

From what I can decipher from the latest update:

a) weight for age of site has increased
b) weight for directory listings have decreased

Any thoughts?


I think fresh and quality content is also a factor.
Btw,I also not finding any changes in SERP.

marketingmagic




msg:3402997
 12:07 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

<rant>I don't want to hear about another Yahoo "update" until they actually update. God they don't have a clue over there. They need to fire all the useless engineers (and I use the term loosely) over there and actually get some people that have a clue about search. </end rant>

goodroi




msg:3403022
 12:29 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

after reading yahoo's blog which said "some changes to our fresh web data and crawling" i wonder how this will impact blogs and newer sites. as the internet continues to grow it does become more of an issue to be able to index new pages for fads and still keep the evergreen content in harmony.

hopefully this update will help yahoo keep there index fresh and avoid the issues their competitors face which make many site wait months before ranking.

ps my site is not #1 for every keyword so the update must suck, j/k ypete :)

justgowithit




msg:3403049
 1:17 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

Is it just me, or is Wikipedia even more prominent than in the past?

Yup, I can see a big difference.

..... or perhaps I'm so used to seeing it in the SERPs I'm just numb.

randle




msg:3403161
 3:22 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

actually get some people that have a clue about search.

You hit the nail on the head. They keep making all these personnel changes in other sectors but they need to grasp the fact they have to dramatically improve their search results. Do that, and all sorts of goods things will happen. Just ask the folks at Google.

This “update” is just one more in a long line of them that never results in marked improvement in their algorithm.

Big, sweeping changes, top to bottom have been needed for a long time now.

supafresh




msg:3403254
 4:22 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

No major movement at all for my sector of search. gonna keep an eye on this since they say its going to take till the weekend.

trakkerguy




msg:3403298
 5:00 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

they say its going to take till the weekend.

Actually, they posted the report last thursday and said they update was already happening, and would be finished by this past weekend. Is already done...

I saw some improvement in 1 site I'd gotten many new backlinks for, but no change in much else.

zeus




msg:3403319
 5:28 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

i still can not use yahoo for anything be cause there is missing a lot of sites in the index.

weeks




msg:3403336
 5:54 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

Is it just me, or is Wikipedia even more prominent than in the past?

No, it's not just you. But, to be fair, Wikipedia makes a certain amount of sense in the search terms I follow. Still, I think most searchers would like our site better than what they find on Wikipedia. But, we need to improve.

synergy




msg:3403398
 6:59 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

I see *no* changes from this update. Come to think of it, I haven't seen a change in the keyword rankings I follow in almost 2 years. Yup thats right every update has not moved my category one bit.

wruppert




msg:3403682
 11:57 pm on Jul 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

I saw an improvement in my local real estate related searches. Some of the really bad serps are gone. The results have improved from insanely weird to not very good.

zjacob




msg:3403713
 1:03 am on Jul 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

Y! search is becoming more and more irrelevant.

Referrals from them are a non-issue, and their crawlers seem to make a lot of visits but that isn't reflected in the way they index pages, especially in terms of pages indexed.

followgreg




msg:3406022
 6:54 am on Jul 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I did a little test a couple of days after this update: updated the homepage on one site with more relevant content.

Results: Yahoo has completely demoted the site which ranked on page 1 for many keywords. Why? well in my opinion they just can't process the data...

In the meantime Google and MSN results were stable, which SHOULD be the case since all keywords kept placement and density and no backlink was modified nor the internal structure of the site changed.

Yahoo has definetely a LOT to learn, maybe even from MSN (which is not perfect for the least).

And once again they've included some junk in their directory, junk being translated as authority in SERP's.
They should change their staff as well.

BTW their directory is mostly gone supplemental in Google, they should ask for reinclusion :)))

"traffic from Y! is a non-issue" >> I don't agree, although I don't really pay attention to such a low volume it generates its part of the profit on some of our sites.

glenng




msg:3407658
 1:19 pm on Jul 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Finally seeing changes in the serps for my area. I do like the results, but will wait to see what the final outcome is.

textex




msg:3408434
 12:07 pm on Jul 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

Seeing some more changes that look really bad. A major step backwards.

supafresh




msg:3408513
 2:19 pm on Jul 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

this is the Worst Update in Yahoo yet! I dont like this at all.

textex




msg:3408520
 2:27 pm on Jul 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think (hope) that this newest change reverts back to the original update. What I am seeing today, I saw for a few hours last week.

Although the current update is not the greatest, it is much better than what I am seeing today. The top ten for some competetive terms are flooded with suspended free hosting accounts.

Huntster




msg:3408660
 4:45 pm on Jul 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

Trying to figure out Yahoo is a waste of time. Thankfully, their ineptness can work to your advantage. I have so many crummy pages that come up high and great pages that don't - that I try to use that to my advantage on Google and Yahoo respectively.

If I am ever searching for something myself - I never use Yahoo. I just don't trust the results.

supafresh




msg:3409518
 2:06 pm on Jul 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

Can you say roll back boys and girls?

glenng




msg:3410476
 2:20 pm on Aug 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

No can't say a roll back - my site for its kw phrases is showing higher than it has in over a year. Just keeping my fingers crossed that this sticks.

dfbfloyd




msg:3410493
 2:38 pm on Aug 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

I noticed something strange with our listings over the last two weeks. We had an organic listing at #7 which moved to #3. However the listing at #3 seems to be generated by our PPC campaign with business.com.

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