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Yahoo Update June 2007
Seeing Crazy Movement!
textex




msg:3359847
 10:04 am on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

This looks even worse than the previous. Tons of scraper sites dominating serps.

 

JimmiPhoenix




msg:3359972
 12:46 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Has anybody else noticed a significant drop off in the quality of results on yahoo this morning? After noticing this for a number of client keywords, I began doing random searches to see if this was industry specific or a more general problem.

Unfortunately, I did about 10-15 random popular searches and spam sites/redirects to affiliate pages were appearing in the top 5 results for all of them.

[edited by: martinibuster at 4:24 pm (utc) on June 6, 2007]
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300m




msg:3360057
 1:46 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

By any chance is anyone noticing a lot of subdomain spamming in the serps? I have seen it here and there, but it looks like its getting out of hand in my niche.

Thanks.

[edited by: martinibuster at 4:25 pm (utc) on June 6, 2007]
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Hach3




msg:3360183
 3:24 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Time for another update.

[ysearchblog.com...]

Curious to see the changes.

[edited by: martinibuster at 4:25 pm (utc) on June 6, 2007]
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crobb305




msg:3360251
 4:13 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Looks like they need more feedback after their Search update last night (and still ongoing). More details on the ysearchblog.

[edited by: martinibuster at 4:29 pm (utc) on June 6, 2007]
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surftrack




msg:3360267
 4:30 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

hmmm doesn't look terrible to me.

mostly authorities sites in the terms i search.

sugarrae




msg:3360287
 4:48 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've been talking with some friends and it seems we're getting different results than each other, but different than before on both too. I for one am seeing nothing but scraper sites for 80% of the top 100 on a ton of terms. Some are seeing the same results as me. Some are seeing a more improved set of serps over the last update - just not the same set I'm seeing. What I'm looking at is the worst quality I've seen from Yahoo since they were "born". So, let's hope that my datacenter updates with the "better" one others are seeing. I have a feeling there will be some massive conflict about the quality of this update until we're shown one set of results across the board.

martinibuster




msg:3360293
 4:53 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

From the Weather Report:
This update should be complete very soon.

Uhm... An eBay listing for a book in the number one spot for a two word B2B phrase? That's spectacularly bad. I hope that's not what t they mean by finished.

JimmiPhoenix




msg:3360319
 5:13 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I currently see ebay listings ranking #1 for all of these terms:
nike
reebok
volkswagen
cnn
online degrees
credit repair

The list goes on . . .

Is eBay the new wikipedia?

surftrack




msg:3360321
 5:15 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

definately must be what is described as different data center results.

most of those keywords you described...nothing but the authorities to which the should be from my searches...

no ebay listings for me.

bwnbwn




msg:3360323
 5:16 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

martinibuster
heck man Google has the same thing everywere so why the question. I have looked at a good many areas and see good results myself do a search for a specific product in google and it is all shop sites and ebay.
I am using yahoo more and more

willybfriendly




msg:3360328
 5:21 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

One of our sites, which has been in oblivian on Y for months is now top 10 for a one word term.

Improvement? Hardly. On a related one word term 9 of the top 20 spots are taken by just 4 sites. That includes two wiki entries.

textex




msg:3360350
 5:46 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I believe I have seen both DCs people are talking about. One is not much different than the previous update and includes tons of .edu and blogspot spam and the other is very different than the previous and contains tons of scraper sites.

Regardless...they both are horrible!

JimmiPhoenix




msg:3360378
 6:27 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

No more eBay results for me. Now I am seeing much better results across the number of queries I tried.

bwnbwn




msg:3360381
 6:34 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hey guys I have a conspiracy theory here

We all know by having a a terrible page we are more than likely gonna get them to use our content search ads either for G, Y or M well I think the big 3 are doing the same in their search as well to get more of the clicks.

Why else are all the shopping sites, expired ebay listing etc dominating the searches. I can't stand a shopping site and have never used one so I am sure I am not by myself and am sick and tired of clicking on the ebay search only to find it is gone, so I don't use them anymore.

When I look at a search what stands out the most are the keywords in the ads coming up for my search so makes good sense the search engines see this and make the results just good enough but bad enough to get the majority of the traffic to clicck on a sponsered result listings.

blend27




msg:3360400
 7:13 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

---Hey guys I have a conspiracy theory here ---

I PERSONALY DON'T THINK IT'S A CONSPIRACY THEORY.

All thought Y at this point is displaying the cleanest serp, as I could see for our niche(from my IP location), there are 1st page results in G and M for very popular search terms we track that look like one company rented an entire first page(except ads), half of the second as well.

MrSpeed




msg:3360446
 8:22 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't follow Yahoo Serps too closely but at one time if a site was in the Yahoo directory there would be a link to the category. I'm not seeing that in regular search anymore unless I choose to search the directory.

WebFusion




msg:3360466
 8:37 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing tons of cloaked/redirected pages across a broad spectrum -this is probably the worst serps I've seen in years.

Lots of redirects hosted on free hosts, subdomain redirect spam, you name it.

At this point, it looks like they've taken a HUGE step back in terms of quality....no wonder Google is eating their lunch.

[edited by: WebFusion at 8:40 pm (utc) on June 6, 2007]

Rugles




msg:3360469
 8:47 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

>>>>At this point, it looks like they've taken a HUGE step back in terms of quality....

That has been the trend over the last year or so.

Not sure why, but in the last year my ancient doorway pages out rank my quality, high traffic sites in Y.

I have given up caring, Y has a declining market share so why should I potentially sacrifice my rankings in Google for Y? But I still cough up the $300 each year.

atlrus




msg:3360484
 8:53 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

It's awful! I thought I was just hitting some DC with messed up results, but I guess everyone sees the same.

For the first 50 resutls on a very competitive search I get only hacked websites...ONLY...

I think it's about time Yahoo quit the search engine game and get their results from somewhere else.

OrganicPop




msg:3360503
 9:09 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

On the first page I'm seeing one domain with 3 seperate listings and 2 affiliate listings of the same site. Brilliant!

Serpent




msg:3360526
 9:42 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yahoo search appears to be down at the moment (I'm in Connecticut). I get a "Error 999" message whenever I search for anything. Anyone else?

callivert




msg:3360554
 10:38 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think it's about time Yahoo quit the search engine game and get their results from somewhere else.

...such as ask.com.
They need to swallow their pride and just do it.

zeus




msg:3360628
 12:23 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

let me know if they have added those 10.000 of sites they have baned, they are really missing a lot sites.

steveb




msg:3360629
 12:23 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

I just have to shake my head. First search i did, top three results looked good so I was wondering about the above comments... then started scrolling down the page and bleeech.

Google groups, spaces.msn.com and a HUGE number of tinyurl type of listings.

Yahoo still can't handle 301s to save its life.

pontifex




msg:3360632
 12:26 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Folks, I have written about the auction site with subdomain spam problem some time ago in the Google index and as it seems, they pop up in Y! as well now. It is time to calm down the SEO folks there a bit - I guess they just did good work previously and now the algo tweaks unveil how subdomains come in play and their "good work" turns into redundant listings (the german Google is full of them)!

P!

whatson




msg:3360646
 12:38 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yahoo is seriously going downhill, you can tell they don't put much effort into their serps anymore, I guess they are just giving that industry to Google.

Swanson




msg:3360673
 1:54 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

You guys kill me!

Does anyone actually care if the "serps" are good, or relevant or whatever!

You lot are (or should be) classified as "webmasters" - which means you should give 2 "xxits" as to whether the results are good, you should care whether you have got good rankings and thus more cash in the bank.

The algo is dynamic and therefore spam will ALWAYS rise to the top because they are more aggresive than someone who is not - Google is the same, that is the way it is. Be aggressive or passive - the Internet reflects real life.

Stop checking "phrases" - most users don't even use the ones you think they do anyway, there is more traffic (profit and ROI) in the longtail search if you do it right.

I am on the right lines though am I - as webmasters we should be concerned with traffic (i.e. how much traffic you can get from a small search engine like Yahoo) more than rankings or "quality" should we not?

Swanson




msg:3360678
 2:03 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

whatson, I believe there was a comment from either Yahoo or MSN earlier in the year that they have conceded search engine share to Google - it is not a case of losing the battle, it is lost.

In the big wide world outside America, Google has more than a 90% share of search in the UK - that is how it is. But how the Internet works is that a lot more people do not use a search engine as their first point of call - not everyone is just searching for a. n. other stuff.

[edited by: Swanson at 2:03 am (utc) on June 7, 2007]

[edited by: martinibuster at 2:27 am (utc) on June 7, 2007]
[edit reason] Removed off topic comments about globalization. [/edit]

BillyS




msg:3360687
 2:33 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Looks fine in my sector. My ranking is relatively unchanged and based on my test terms the results look pretty good.

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