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Yahoo Updated
Garya

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 9:28 am on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

looks like yahoo is looking more like google with this update. Older sites, outdated. Worst results yet.
all three SE have bad results.
ask.com only one with good results.

 

textex

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 10:55 am on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Wow...it just keeps getting worse and worse.

No authority at all. Lots of cloaked redirects. Lots of parked domains. Lots of Blogs. Lots of sites ranking b/c of spam blogging links.

saptarshi321

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 12:21 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

seems something is cooking.. today I noticed that for certain sites Yahoo is cropping the title from beginning and on a closer observation it seems that they are trying to limit the title within 80 characters. Earlier also, they used to crop the title if they were too long but the words towards the end of the title used to get cropped, this time the words at the beginning are getting cropped. I observed this while searching for keywords in the canadian pharmacy industry and also in real estate industry..

any idea anyone?

RichTC

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 12:45 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

textex

Would agree with you - since about three updates back its been on a slow decline.

They also keep listing the same site more than once for the same search term. I often see sites in the serps for a search term in two or three positions in the top ten for different pages of the site - Crazy.

Losing the plot now i think.

textex

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 12:55 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

These results are so bad it makes me wonder if we should start thinking about the 'they do it on purpose for more ppc clicks' theory...

I see so many small sites (less than 10 pages) that are just thrown up ranking well for competetive terms. No back links. No authority.

Label_Lady

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 1:08 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Our e-commerce site did very well with this update. Our code is clean and titles are short. Nothing to complain about here.

WebPixie

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 2:15 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

It just keeps getting worse. I'm seeing authority sites not in the top 100 results and brand new turnkey sites with almost no customization in the top 10. It looks like Y! is rewarding the massive link exchangers in my market. The two sites that will exchange with any site and have full time people doing nothing but offering exchanges to any site with a pulse are top 10.

Google has my site with 51k pages, Yahoo says the site is 200 pages. Aren't SEs fun? :)

zeus

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 2:19 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

yahoo new update!

so!

andrewshim

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 2:26 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

wow... I'm at #8.

BUT...

they've replace my homepage in the serps with an internal page. contacted them twice. first time, my homepage came back and was climbing. Then 3 days later I'm lost in Yahoo's wasteland again... so am I thrilled? no... I'd rather have my homepage at #20 than that internal page at #8.... no relevance.

JoeSinkwitz

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 4:18 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Alright, now that I've had a bit of time to sift through and analyze...

1. Blog spam still pervasive (a little better in some of my industries, but still a ways to go).
2. We need a tag that lets us override the Yahoo directory listing. Please, please, please, that is annoying. We put a request in last month to at least change the title, but still there is nothing. A simple <meta name="robots" content="noyd"> would be good, or even go so far as to adopt the current NOODP tag and assume that it applies to the Y directory as well -- webmasters really want that.
3. More preference towards older, authoritative sites, which can sometimes lead to a few irrelevant results, but if that is the lesser of two evils, I'll live with it by waiting.
4. Emphasis on anchor text and KW density seems to be roughly the same, perhaps swaying a bit back more to off-page.

If Yahoo can tackle #1/#2, I'll be happy with the direction.

Cygnus

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 4:43 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yahoo have now confirmed the update has taken place.

It's a "new search index."

I think they like us to let them know first. ;)

crobb305

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 4:47 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

A Weather Report on the ysearchblog verifies what we are seeing.

I guess this discussion needs to be on the WW homepage beside the MSN update, and the Google Pagerank update :)

Lots going on.

aleksl



 
Msg#: 3059975 posted 5:19 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Only checked our eCommerce site for now. Last few weeks we were slowly crawling up the ladder, ending up at #10 for the main KW. Granted, it was a good competition, solid sites in top-20, all newly updated, etc.

With this new update, we fell back to 4th page. Several fairly unrelated (i.e. "article" or "consumer info" - read MFA "content" sites or large site just happened to mention our widgets), stale, or plain ugly sites in top-40 that shouldn't be there, also a couple of MFA and subdomain-spam sites, but not many. Otherwise it seems that older sites and/or sites in DMOZ got a slight boost - this is all just plain speculation on my part. I also see sites that have 10 times less backlinks than us doing well.

Just an observation.

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 5:24 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just tried a common search that usually brings up my homepage. The good news is that I'm #1. The bad news is that the long snippet which appears to be taken from my site is in Danish(!).

It looks like some network (Eurekster?) scraped a foreign-language link to my site and is broadcasting it all over the Web as a non-sponsored link in its system, and Yahoo as picked it up as authoritative. I don't know if they're doing this disguise which links are paid-for (so Google can't penalize them) or just to fill space, but this is a mess.

tictoc

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 5:57 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

I do not see any major changes. I still see Blog Spam.

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 8:07 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>>Would agree with you - since about three updates back its been on a slow decline.

100% agreee Yahoo lost the plot on around May 16th and looks like they are getting worse and worse as time goes on.

mfishy

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 8:47 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Things are still bouncing around, but it seems like a decent update. I have seen better and I have seen worse.

steveb

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 8:52 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Definte improvement with quite a lot more niche authority sites ranking (even if often the order has weaker niche site above stronger).

First positive signs from Yahoo in well over a year. Still not very good tho... way too much subdomain doodoo.

Yahoo had sunk to #3, but is now at least back in the hunt, way behind, but actually DOING something for once.

==
More emphasis on page title would help them a lot.

medianetplus

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 9:21 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have an old site for flowers delivery which was in top 10 position on keywords like flowers delivery , flowers online, send flowers and etc.. after update i am on 55, 110, 78, 250, #*$! ... yahoo sux sux sux!

Garya

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 9:37 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you look at the canada site
[ca.search.yahoo.com...]
you will see what they are doing, results are good there and in Japan.
Only the us it is poor just to get the $$ from pay per clicks.

Yahoo said the results should be the same and not better in canada, But they are different
but don't know why means they are lying andn have no explanation.

Seems to be a trend in the US results to get poor results.

for google use google.ca
msn use latin america
yahoo use .ca
These are all much better then there us counterparts

textex

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 10:11 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Agreed, yahoo.ca looks better and is definately very different.

idolw

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 10:20 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

heh, funny.
i am tops on expensive keywords on yahoo now but see no increase in sales.
what is the presure about? does anyone give prizes or cash for being tops or is it just to be there?
i wish yahoo was used more often by users and not just webmasters checking their positions.

idolw

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 10:23 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

hahahah, this is comedy. my sites take up to 3 spots in top10 for some lucrative searches.
we deserve top10 listing but not 30% of them.
yahoo are idiots indeed ;)

Bewenched

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 10:47 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Although we dropped about 10k of old pages the results for our main categories look much better.

But of course Yahoo mingles paid results in with natural results. I do wish that in site explorer it would show you the difference. Then maybe results would matter.

Bewenched

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 11:20 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

One interesting thing I haven't seen before ... after being logged in and doing a search on just yahoo.com this showed up after one of my listings

¦Saved by 5 people

I guess one of those is me. :)

trinorthlighting

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 11:48 pm on Aug 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looks good for my sites...

Drum

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 3:06 am on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think the results are a bit better.

garyr_h

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 7:59 am on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Definately bad for my sites.

I'm seeing authority sites going up the ladder ATM. Not Amazon or the other usuals, but a famous movie website and gift site.

Buckley

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 10:12 am on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Brilliant for me! I was 6th for my most important keyword a year ago...slowly dropped to 48th....now i'm 8th. Which is where i am in Google. 4 year old solid site that deserves to be there...they got it right, for me at least :)

Bhavin

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Msg#: 3059975 posted 10:47 am on Aug 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yahoo Updated this data center 66.94.230.32 check it.

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