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msg:3697412
 7:55 am on Jul 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

SAN FRANCISCO - Yahoo Inc. has rejected Microsoft's latest attempt to buy its online search operations in a "take or leave it" proposal that Yahoo said would have dismantled its Internet franchise.

[news.yahoo.com ]

 

benevolent001




msg:3697460
 12:17 pm on Jul 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

At times i wonder why is MS so desperate to buy out yahoo , don't they trust there own engineers for making something good comparable in terms of search market? or are they running away from handwork and want to enjoy instant already made food.

I have seen few very good engines who have come up with own research and hardwork in last few years , why not MS ready to work for themselves? instead again and again using its giant financial arms.

The story seems like girlfriend is not ready to marry and you are again and again proposing to her with different methods.

dcheney




msg:3697472
 1:08 pm on Jul 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

benevolent

M$ has a long history of creating a product internally, realizing it is horrifically bad, and then buying a competitor's product and re-labeling it.

All this tells me is that M$ has given up on their own search technology.

caine




msg:3697495
 2:54 pm on Jul 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

There is a heck of a lot of talent in Yahoo in all area's of the business, MS wanting to buy part or all of yahoo - makes a lot of sense.

The yahoo - google thing is cartel material #1 & #2 hooking up is pretty much the end of a free internet (or any concept of it)

Lord Majestic




msg:3697505
 3:38 pm on Jul 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

M$ has a long history of creating a product internally

This applies to most big companies - Google included, like for example Google Video and Youtube (for now latter keeps its name), or "Google" Earth or "Google" Analytics.

swa66




msg:3697585
 7:36 pm on Jul 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

The yahoo - google thing is cartel material #1 & #2 hooking up is pretty much the end of a free internet (or any concept of it)

I fear much more MSFT gettign it's hand in things that GOOG and Yahoo! hookign up together.

T/he Microsoft way of leveraging one de facto monopoly into anther market and destroying the market is not what I wan tto see happen to search, advertising or anything else either Yahoo! or Google are active in. (And for those who doubt MSFT will do that: they've been convicted of it and fined record breaking fines, an dnot shown any remorse, so yeah they'll do it if they have half a chance).

Vivo




msg:3697658
 12:04 am on Jul 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yahoo's refusal to accept a deal with Microsoft is much more to do with there directors history and sentiment and directly acts against the interests of there shareholders.

When you look at the background of yahoo and google you come across some incestous relationships. Both the founders of yahooo and google were Standford Ph.D Students. Both companies were launched from the same venture capatalist "Michael Moritz". And previously Larry Pages brother "Carl" has been involved in aquitions with yahoo worth over $400 million.

Still think Yahoo has it's shareholders best interests at heart by turning away microsoft and putting a deal with google together?

[edited by: Vivo at 12:05 am (utc) on July 14, 2008]

skibum




msg:3697783
 6:56 am on Jul 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yawn. It's one big mess. We're better of with 3 (4 if you count Ask.com) engines than 2. Seems to be more about ego, Icahn wanting to turn a quick buck and rip Yahoo! into pieces. Nobody is going to win if this keeps going on.

KFish




msg:3697943
 1:11 pm on Jul 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

PPC advertising costs are hitting the roof. The primary keywords are no more affordable by small business players. Now this whole business of search engines buying one another.

If such is the scenario with only 3 major search engines, I fear what will happen if we will be left with only 2?

Microsoft isn’t looking to buy Yahoo Search; instead they have their eyes on Yahoo PPC business. The next thing they will do once they get their hands on it, will be to increase Yahoo Pay Per Click cost as much as possible.

bcolflesh




msg:3698000
 2:50 pm on Jul 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

M$ has a long history of creating a product internally, realizing it is horrifically bad, and then buying a competitor's product and re-labeling it.

You just described every large IT firm, not just MS.

npwsol




msg:3698850
 1:52 pm on Jul 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

The difference between Yahoo!-Google and Yahoo!-MSFT is that with Yahoo!-Google, you still have three search engines.

If MSFT buys Yahoo!, they'll dismantle it and all the Yahoo! users will go to Google.

The reason keywords are so damn expensive is because of the number of sites now reaching for those keywords. There's a few niche markets, I suppose, where the price is not too steep; all in all, though, the internet marketplace is getting to be very clogged.

bwnbwn




msg:3700972
 5:18 pm on Jul 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yahoo said no but now it looks like the Shareholders have made an offer to sell signed by Roy Bostock, Yahoo’s chairman of the board and Jerry Yang, Yahoo’s CEO, . This is far from over. [foxbusiness.com...]

hutcheson




msg:3701796
 4:32 pm on Jul 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

And in the meantime, Microsoft exhibits leadership and value-building online, as reported in [news.bbc.co.uk...] , where the online division reports $443 MILLION this QUARTER, almost double last year's numbers.

Those are all all, of course, losses. Maybe they should sell their online division to Yahoo. For that matter, they'd come out ahead just giving it to Yahoo. Or paying AOL to take it. Or outsourcing it to one of the Jovian moons.

Maybe the Microsoft shareholders should be revolting.

Lord Majestic




msg:3701799
 4:35 pm on Jul 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Maybe they should sell their online division to Yahoo.

XBox division of Microsoft was also losing a lot of money, using this logic they should have sold out to Sony or Nintendo, yet they had a good second whack and actually won a place among consoles, something that was very unlikely to happen.

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