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First Install of Win 7 Retail
fear, loathing, trepidation, and anticipation

 5:58 pm on Nov 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

Played with the early (june) beta of win 7 and enjoyed. So, with much trepidation and resolved, I installed win7 yesterday on my main box. This was an upgrade from Vista.

It took about 2.5 hours total. I am not exactly sure, as I started it running and went home. I was shocked about 8pm when my email started showing up on my phone from outlook. The only way that could happen is if Win7 successfully started up outlook and the outlook->verizon connector was working. I was further shocked, when tried to log back into my box via a vnc-like program and got right in with the Win7 startup screen staring at me.

That, was the easiest Microsoft upgrade I have ever done, on any program, on any platform in 25 years of using Microsoft products. They nailed it.



 1:20 am on Nov 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

After running the beta on an old Vaio notebook (really liked it), ordered/received my family 3-pack today. I was miffed when I saw "32-bit" on the disc upon opening; however, the 64-bit disc was underneath.

Installed on a newer Vista i7. Freaked for a few seconds when the install rebooted then powered the machine off, huh? Pushed power button, nothing. Turns out it shut down my battery backup via USB (Vista never did recognize it). Reboot, reinstall, zap. Unplugged the batt backup USB cable & off to the races. I use this machine as a dedicated video streamer. Vista CPU usage: ~35%, Win7 CPU: ~15%

Flawless/painless install otherwise. Had to reinstall Synergy, but that' it so far. 1 down, 2 to go.


 2:46 am on Nov 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'm still not a fan of upgrading any version of Windows. A clean install is the only way I recommend.

An upgrade leaves you with all the cruft of the former OS. If you've been upgrading from version to version that can cause issues. Microsoft has transfer wizards to migrate much of your old content if you don't know how to do that, but you'll need to re-install your software.

Take the time and do a clean install. You'll be saving yourself a lot of time and worry down the line.


 5:01 am on Nov 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

>>I'm still not a fan of upgrading any version of Windows.

Agree & prepped machine for that. However, it was new in June & dedicated, so essentially a new Vista PC. The software that I did run on it would have required manual reactivation that might have taken it down for a day, so decided to give upgrade a shot.

It was a good opportunity to see how they've progressed w/ 'upgrade' and now confident enough to just upgrade my main PC & another steaming machine (which are only a few months older). On the old Vaio notebook, I reformatted/installed the beta, & felt like I'd bought a new PC w/ the new eye candy & speed. Clunker to netbook.

They nailed it & 3 licenses for under a buck-fifty brings back a bit of MS warm/fuzzy. They're listening & moving.


 5:25 pm on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

I've just done an upgrade from Vista to 7. Things were going smoothly until we had a power cut more than two-thirds through! But when the power came back on, the system quietly and automatically rolled back to Vista and I was able to restart the installation. No damage, no files lost. I'm extremely impressed by how smoothly it went.


 10:16 pm on Dec 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

the system quietly and automatically rolled back to Vista and I was able to restart the installation. No damage, no files lost

First time I saw a demo by a dude from MSFT in 1998 of their technology to roll back changes. And the demo failed miserably (BSOD failure on rolling back an application installation that was in progress)

More than a decade later I see a report of it finally working, and now I'm supposed to be impressed (I might have been a decade ago). Now nah, not so much.

3 licenses for under a buck-fifty

That's not quite the pricing they use out here:
Just searched on the best known software distributors inventory:
- Cheapest Windows 7 license they sell are the OEM versions: starting from 109.90 EUR [160 US$]
(But that's borderline legal to use unless you also buy a computer with it)
- Most expensive is the ultimate full version at 319 EUR [450 US$] (upgrade being 299 EUR [435 US$])

Versus $1.5 for 3 licenses: that's a gigantic difference -even with the lowest OEM pricing- of a factor of 320 times more expensive on this side of the ocean ...
Those licenses must cross the ocean in great style and luxury.

At least apple extends it's $29 offer for the upgrade from Leopard (10.5) to Snow leopard (10.6) at 29 EUR out here. Who was calling Apple expensive again ?


 2:30 am on Dec 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

I saw a demo by a dude from MSFT in 1998 of their technology to roll back changes

Windows 98 would BSOD if you looked at it the wrong way. That's not surprising. ;)

The technology in Windows 7 may not impress you, but it's a nice step up for most Windows users. They finally got a lot of things right with this release.

3 licenses for under a buck-fifty

That was a limited time promotion run by Microsoft called the Family Pack [windowsteamblog.com]. The campaign ended recently, but some vendors still have them available. Right now it's a while supplies last situation for that particular deal.


 7:37 pm on Dec 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

I Guess I got lucky.

My upgrade from Vista Ultimate 64 bit to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit was free, but I bought my new laptop within a certain timeframe which I think is a good part of the reason. Also I believe my location played a part as well from what I've read.

The upgrade process itself was smooth but time consuming, and I did have a couple of things to reinstall after it was done. Overall I'm very pleased.

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