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MSFT: Windows 7 copied the Mac look and feel! No we didn't!
Hello, I'm a Mac, err. legal says I'm a PC!
swa66

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Msg#: 4025657 posted 8:54 am on Nov 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

In an interview with PCR, Microsoft's partner group manager, Simon Aldous stated Microsoft created a Mac look and feel in terms of graphics for Windows 7:
[pcr-online.biz...]
One of the things that people say an awful lot about the Apple Mac is that the OS is fantastic, that its very graphical and easy to use. What weve tried to do with Windows 7 whether its traditional format or in a touch format is create a Mac look and feel in terms of graphics. Weve significantly improved the graphical user interface, but its built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance.

As one would expect, the software moloch quickly refuted it all:
[pcr-online.biz...]
Simon was incorrect in describing Windows 7 in this way and subsequent headlines claiming that the Mac OS inspired Windows 7 are totally inaccurate

I'm sure Microsoft never got inspired by others. LOL!

 

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Msg#: 4025657 posted 2:58 pm on Nov 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yeah, and Mac hasn't been inspired by any MS features? ;)

Hey, you should be happy that PC users now get to play with the OSX dock. How old is that now?

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Msg#: 4025657 posted 3:28 pm on Nov 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

I personally have yet to see any GUI feature in windows that I'd not have seen earlier in some other product or that I know was developed earlier by another company (e.g. the stuff at Xerox's lab isn't something I have seen for myself).

There's a difference in being inspired by something and "stealing" it and even after having employees admitting it, still not being man enough to admit it.
But I guess that's MSFTs corporate culture going back to Bill Gates himself.

Don't take my word for it, watch "Pirates of Silicon Valley" ;) [Which I've never seen]

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Msg#: 4025657 posted 2:15 am on Nov 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yes, and here are a few that Apple 'stole' from Windows...Top 10 features that Apple stole from Windows [infoworld.com]
It appears this goes on all the time, even with Linux GUIs.

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Msg#: 4025657 posted 10:39 am on Nov 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'll just point to one of them:

10: Terminal: Command Prompt
is claimed to be a copycat act of *Windows* ?
Prior art my friend: unix existed since 1969, Microsoft wasn't even founded.
And if you mean a window with a terminal inside: take a look at e.g. sunview (dates back to the 1980s) or X11 (1984).

If that makes the top 10: well I'm sorry for whoever made that list as checking facts isn't their strongest point for sure.

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Msg#: 4025657 posted 1:56 pm on Nov 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

It's not my story. I just linked to it.

Borrowing goes on all the time in interface design. I find this entire 'stealing' connotation a bit too over the top.

Think of all the website design that's gone on over the years. I guess I borrowed or 'stole' a lot of design concepts from authors I admired or envied...much from esteemed WebmasterWorld Mods. If I 'stole' a few CSS concepts combined with a few lines of HTML code along the way it hasn't harmed the web. That's just a part of learning and evolving on a web design front.

Firefox, Safari, IE and Chrome 'stole' the tabbed interface from Opera...along with several other features. I don't see the web up in arms about that.

I don't get all the feigned indignation on this topic. It's just design elements moving forward and getting better for the users. If you look into a lot of this there is very little 'original' innovation going on.

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Msg#: 4025657 posted 11:14 pm on Nov 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

There are trivial steps in interface evolution (e.g. after you find the concept of a back button: adding a forward button.)
There are also huge leaps ahead in interface design: e.g the mouse.

I'd not use "steal" on the trivial parts. On the major leaps: yes that's more like "stealing" if you "copy" it without permission, as it should be patentable to the one inventing it.

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