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msg:4050490
 8:35 pm on Dec 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hello,
If criticism is accepted. I am member on few forums which are most popular and largest in there own niche.

I have found only on webmasterworld, members who have registered years ago (more then 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, even 7+ years ago), suddenly make a reply sometimes, in case of some important changes or important topics only, not important topics are ignore ;)
(this does not happens on forums who disclose proper member data or stats, anyway this depends upon the rules of each and every forum).
Webmasterworld authors are not aware about actual userbase, due to limitations in software (sounds funny cause we are among leading webmaster forums)

I am a member since last few years on webmasterworld, but was surprised to find this issue..
(morever I found members who have last replied posts visible on there profile pages, but not accessible, leads to different topic).

let me check my history again.

Guys, I hope criticsm is accepted and we get meaningful replies.

Question was raised, only because age old member replies and never get back in front again !
weird
Things have changed drastically since past.. why re-invent the wheel or why to reply ..

Sound very weird and gets me confused.

 

Brett_Tabke




msg:4050502
 8:57 pm on Dec 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

I've reread your post 4 times and I sure don't get what your question or statement is all about. Is it about the fact we keep member files around for 10 years? Or the fact that older members that are quiet can find something interesting to comment on?

>(morever I found members who have last replied posts visible on there profile pages,

Older profiles - beyond 5 years since the response in that thread, may have some suspect threads in there. The ability to track profile posts only came about five years ago. It was not "back dated" to those older posts. Only when a members posts, is their profile updated.

> Webmasterworld authors are not aware about actual userbase,

Nah, we've never talked about it, or cared about that as a number. The are several metrics we do track, but not numbers of registered members. Never really needed it.

> due to limitations in software

Hardly, I could write it in under 5minutes - just never had the motivation for that unnecessary exercise.

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:4050513
 9:09 pm on Dec 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

I've reread your post 4 times and I sure don't get what your question or statement is all about.

I'm the same. Is it about the fact that there is no membership list available here?

ken_b




msg:4050539
 9:18 pm on Dec 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

When I read the thread title, I thought the OP was about members with a join date of several years ago who have never posted until now.

(morever I found members who have last replied posts visible on there profile pages, but not accessible, leads to different topic).
Could that happen if threads got spliced or moved to a different forum?

Brett_Tabke




msg:4050542
 9:27 pm on Dec 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

>Could that happen if threads got spliced or moved to a different forum?

Right...

stajer




msg:4050578
 11:47 pm on Dec 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

My reading is the OP is complaining that a member can post to an old, seemingly dormant thread and that thread won't pop to the top of the thread list for that topic.

That is, that someone can "sneak" a comment in on a dead thread without anyone else seeing it.

I don't think that is how the system works - I think if anyone posts a comment on a thread, that thread comes back to the top of the thread list for that topic - no matter how old the thread.

Leosghost




msg:4050592
 12:39 am on Dec 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

I get the impression that there is in the OP's post an inference / apprehension that the fact that there is no membership list and that long time members post as "new members" ( and some of them only post on "very hot topics" after years of silence )..that the OP thinks that somehow the posts are rigged and that some are not real members ?

If that is the gist of the post ? ..I've got to say that although I dont always agree with some admins or some mods ..that IMO this place is still one of the straightest places ..if not the straightest place on the net ..some people post lots ..some hardly ever ..some only when it seems important to them ( there was a time when I was aware of some nicks with a suspiciously similar style of post prose ..AFAIK that was sorted ..and multiple nicks is now watched for by the admins and mods and members ..and sock puppeting like spamming is picked up real fast ) ..some members do however come back and post under new nicks ..but if one reads here enough one recognises them by their style ..

The integrity of WebmasterWorld isn't just watched over by admins and mods ..we all have an interest in this place staying as "shill free" and as balanced and as unpolluted by cabals as possible ..

Closed threads don't resurface except as referenced to in other threads ..but some glitches do seem to happen and some threads show "active" in "recent posts" for a short time even though the last post may be a few day before ( when that happens someone ? resets the "whatever" and the "recent posts" regain their chronological order ) ..

Some threads show in recent posts ..and then drop out ( even though they may be active ) ..Foo threads in particular ..( as interst waxes and wanes )..and some extremely controversial threads drop off "recent posts" list and only the participants ( supposedly ) know they are continuing ( a useful way for admins in any forum to smoke out "teams" and identify "team members" ) new posters to such threads can only have been told by participants that such threads exist ..

Any admin will know the usefulness of the latter technique to help spot those acting in concert and be able to watch them in the future ..and most teams don't realise when this is happening :)

Membership lists and "members online" IMO make for tacky forums ( as do avatars etc ) ..posting can too easily degenerate into a sort of IRC conversation if one sees that ones mates are online ..and can also result in provocative posting ..

I've read thousand more threads here than those in which I've posted ..and there have been many threads just on the subject of fora , modding fora, admining , tag teaming ,sock puppetting etc ..I dont think I ever read anyone asking why there are no membership lists on WebmasterWorld until today ..( I would have said "who cares who amongst us is online" ) but apparently the OP does ..

And like other posters in this thread ..the question(s) isnt/aren't too clear to me ..Problem of using translation software I suspect ? And maybe the sense and nuances some of our answers also get lost in translation ?

Maybe some of the things I mentioned are the cause of concern and or misunderstanding to the OP ?

But I think s/he maybe also jumping at imaginary shaddows :)

stajer




msg:4050599
 1:18 am on Dec 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

I get the impression that there is in the OP's post an inference / apprehension that the fact that there is no membership list and that long time members post as "new members" ( and some of them only post on "very hot topics" after years of silence )..that the OP thinks that somehow the posts are rigged and that some are not real members ?

Ah, I think you hit the nail on the head Leosghost. I do remember that as a new member it took me a while to figure out how the member titles (junior, full, senior, etc) worked. I also remember my excitement after being upgraded to Full from Junior.

I think WebmasterWorld's qualitative application of titles (rather than quantitative) is one of the best facets of this community. The mods and admins are highly active in the community and the feature encourages quality content.

Huzzah! Don't change it!

encyclo




msg:4050602
 1:32 am on Dec 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think WebmasterWorld's qualitative application of titles (rather than quantitative) is one of the best facets of this community.

Not sure what you mean, as WebmasterWorld member levels are quantitative: FAQ: What are the member levels? [webmasterworld.com]

Member lists are not important. Member levels are not important. Like all forums, there is a mix of long-term lurkers, one-post wonders, low-volume regulars, all the way up to the obsessives with post-counts in the thousands. What's great about WebmasterWorld is the conversation, the rest is irrelevant.

a member can post to an old, seemingly dormant thread and that thread won't pop to the top of the thread list for that topic.

This is correct, any reply will move the thread up to the top. And unlike many other forums, threads are auto-locked after a set period so stale conversations can't get endlessly bounced up. This rule applies whatever the membership level.

I'm afraid the OP here will have to clarify his question to get a better reply.

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