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MrSavage




msg:3983828
 4:22 am on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Although I've clouded my recent posts because of my depressing loss of indexing, I simple think it's fantastic here. I really don't think that there is a better think tank out there in terms of what is really happening in cyberspace. There is a certain anonymity here that makes it honest and helpful. I truly respect the long time posters here. There are many senior members, and obviously you have made this place what it is. It's been a VERY informative and educational experience being here. Thanks everyone.

 

tangor




msg:3983829
 4:28 am on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

MrSavage... you have just made everyone's day! Sincere appreciation of what happens here everyday is the best exchange for all the effort that is expended. Hang around long enough and you, too, will become a senior member! :)

phranque




msg:3983938
 11:56 am on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

welcome to WebmasterWorld [webmasterworld.com], MrSavage!

i've noticed your participation in discussions in the Webmaster General forum in particular and appreciate your contribution.

benevolent001




msg:3983947
 12:34 pm on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hello MrSavage , you are Welcome to WebmasterWorld :)

MrSavage




msg:4002683
 3:11 am on Oct 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

It was fun while it lasted but I'm more suited to reading and not posting here. H

aving a couple lengthy recent posts deleted isn't my idea of enjoyable. I post in a lot of different forums over the years and I can count on about 2 fingers the number of posts that I've had deleted. Blog posts, forums etc, usually would never ever get deleted. I respect this place for its high quality and great people. Perhaps it's so great because posts and newbies are screened. I don't know.

If my posts are scrutinized to the extent of deletion, I'm out of here. Not sure who here has experienced post deletions, but to me, it's the worst treatment. Again, this is a quality top notch forum, but it's not ever worth having a lot of thoughts and words deleted. Not for me at least. I'm civil and certainly not offensive. I'm passionate and perhaps that's the problem.

I'm grateful for all the help you guys offered me. I've een in a real tough spot and the guidance has been invaluable. It's been fun, but consider this my last post here. I'll enjoy reading the best think tank online. You guys are brilliant. I would consider this the #1 forum/think tank on the planet. Too bad I can't be part of it.

[edited by: MrSavage at 3:23 am (utc) on Oct. 7, 2009]

mack




msg:4002684
 3:19 am on Oct 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

If you have had a post edited or deleted you are always welcome to contact the moderator responsible for the forum where you posted. There is always a reason for an edit or deletion and we are always open about our reasons.

Have a talk with the moderator involved. I hope we can convince you to stay around.

Mack.

MrSavage




msg:4002687
 3:27 am on Oct 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

Both time I did receive an explanation which is very considerate and very professional. It helped me understand the deletion, to an extent. Unfortunately an explanation doesn't bring back the time, thoughts and effort put into a lengthy post. I'm sure we've all done it before. You know when you come up with a great post somewhere, you go to post, something happens, the connection fails, you go back and realize the post is gone. That about sums up how I feel about it, expect it was something done intentionally. I respect rules, and most of all, I respect this place and everyone here. Unfortunately when thoughts are scrutinized, it can be a very individual call on what is or isn't appropriate. I'm not trying to be disrespectful in saying that. Perhaps this place is so fantastic because it's kept clean by mod who care and delete things that are not to standard. I think it just may have been better to be informed that posts can be subjected to deletion. I'm more used to typical forum type rules about cross talk, swearing, that type of thing. Am I aware of individual type rules for various forums here? There is a code of conduct of which I was unaware of you could say. I remain steadfast on the fact that I'm guilty of being passionate.

In closing, it's not every worth it for me to post and have thoughts deleted because I'm being passionate about a subject. That's who I am.

tangor




msg:4002712
 5:15 am on Oct 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

Understand the passion... I am, too. However, the best way to participate is to read the TOS for each forum BEFORE the passionate fingers bang on the keyboard. Saves both posters and mod ghods the time and work!

wheel




msg:4002996
 3:15 pm on Oct 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

ot sure who here has experienced post deletions, but to me, it's the worst treatment.

If I'm not getting posts deleted regularly, I'm not trying hard enough!

Heck, in the last month, I bet I've had 10-15 posts deleted on a niche forum - and that's a forum I used to own and the mods know who I am!

As for here, you should appreciate that the forum IS the moderation. Reflect on that - the tone of the forum is a derivative of the moderation; if you life the forum then appreciate the moderation even if you're on the pointy end of the stick.

But yeah, if you can't see the rationale for it, it becomes a bit personal. But here generally they'll send you a PM when it happens, along with an explanation. You may disagree with the explanation, but most times you'll at least understand the reason.

What burns me isn't deletion - it's deletion that's inconsistent and without explanation. I've left forums for that reason (and clearly, I'm a constant poster). But that's not what I see here. I don't always agree - who does? - but if you do the same thing twice, you'll get the same reaction both times.

mack




msg:4003021
 3:34 pm on Oct 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

You where asking about the rules here, there is a main Terms of service [webmasterworld.com] that applies to all of WebmasterWorld. Each forum also has its own "Charter". The charter can be read by following the link from the top of the forum page, just below the breadcrumbs. For example on this page we are in the WebmasterWorld community center.

Forum Library : Charter : Moderators: Hawkgirl

The TOS is a set of site-wide rules. The chareter is more forum specific, every forum has its own charter, but the main TOS still applies no matter what forum you are in.

Mack.

MrSavage




msg:4021319
 8:08 pm on Nov 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the insights. I've returned. I was steaming mad, no question about that. I have way too much respect for this place to question why a post was not published. I think most newbies should be made aware that, just because you reply or start a thread, it doesn't mean an automatic publish. That would be obvious to those already here, but not to new folks. The big problem with forum rules are, is that is often like that instruction manual that comes with a product, and nobody reads it. It's not smart, but 95% of people don't read the instructions.

In closing, this is the #1 internet think tank on the net. To me there is no better and more trusted commentary/advice. For that, I'm very grateful (even though I was really pissed off). Cheers!

bill




msg:4021493
 5:14 am on Nov 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

Good to have you back MrSavage.

I think most newbies should be made aware that, just because you reply or start a thread, it doesn't mean an automatic publish.

Several forums are pre-moderated. That means that posts are all moderated before they are published. Currently these forums are pre-moderated:

  • Google Search News
  • Yahoo Search Engine and Directory
  • Search Engine Spider and User Agent Identification
  • Commercial Exchange
  • Justin billy




    msg:4022216
     6:42 am on Nov 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

    Hello, Good to see you here again! I also come back after long time here but now i would be continue here for long time.

    phranque




    msg:4027192
     9:06 am on Nov 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

    happy to hear you made that slow count to 10 and reconsidered, MrSavage.

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