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9 out of 16 top stories on WebmasterWorld front page are google related
esllou




msg:3924076
 5:31 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

we're just helping to feed the beast, aren't we?

:-¦

 

engine




msg:3924179
 7:42 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

And 7 out of 16 are not ;)

If it's relevant to webmasters and web marketers, we have a duty to carry the story, whatever the company involved.

I'm always keen to hear what other stories are relevant, and they will reach to front page. Just hit the recommend. I'd be keen to see it. I guess you could say we're feeding the webmasters.

:)

idolw




msg:3924187
 7:52 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

well it is still better than my RSS reader. 95 out of 100 posts are twitter related ;)

esllou




msg:3924199
 8:09 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

yeah, I was being a bit tongue in cheek. I do feel WebmasterWorld can sometimes take half a step too close to being Chief Google Product Promoter. But it's all good...

:-)

pageoneresults




msg:3924215
 8:54 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

Well it is still better than my RSS reader. 95 out of 100 posts are twitter related.

We are products of our environment. :)

Being on Twitter, I see mostly Twitter this and Twitter that. Oh, with a dab of Google here and there. Today it's Bing. Tomorrow who knows.

9 out of 16 is actually really good considering the behemoth that Google have become. Imagine being a WebmasterWorld Administrator/Moderator and having to decide which topics go Front Page. The Google Forums are where it's at. I'm sure staff do whatever possible to minimize the impact that G have on the Front Page. It's not easy. ;)

esllou




msg:3924220
 8:57 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yes, I agree. I wonder what % of WebmasterWorld posts are in the adsense forum. Must be over 40%.

pageoneresults




msg:3924226
 8:59 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

Being a Senior Member I believe you have access to the recommend link at the bottom of topics? We can do our best and help keep the balance. :)

flag it printable recommend e-a-friend start new topic reply to this topic

g1smd




msg:3924233
 9:03 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

*** I wonder what % ***

Check it out... all the numbers are here: [webmasterworld.com...]

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3924427
 5:36 am on Jun 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

97% of my traffic comes from Google. Does anything else matter?

Shaddows




msg:3924703
 11:42 am on Jun 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

97% of my traffic comes from Google. Does anything else matter?

LOL- Good point.

Chief Google Product Promoter

Really? I feel there is quite a strong Google-sceptic undercurrent, held in check by the implicit fact that we play in Google's sandpit. Might as well rail against the weather in a seaside town.

esllou




msg:3924866
 4:18 pm on Jun 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

remember who put Google on the pedestal they currently inhabit.

Ozymandias




msg:3937941
 12:30 am on Jun 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think its a simple case of supply meeting demand, don't you?
Fact of the matter is Google has the lion's share of the search engine market, it's the #1 search engine people try to optimize for, and if you get a high listing it can be the #1 source of traffic. So... why not?

Who put Google on the pedestal? It's users/customers... no one else.

When you say 'beast' do you mean in its dominance? Or is that in a negative connotation?

I would say the real 'beast' is Microsoft, at least Google delivers quality products, albeit it practically has become a monopoly... but at least it gives users value in my opinion.

Marcia




msg:3937957
 2:53 am on Jun 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

>>And 7 out of 16 are not

I love that answer! And I nominate this thread to be pinned to the top of the homepage.

tangor




msg:3937999
 5:13 am on Jun 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

Quitely ( in a soft voice to not disturb others ) Google apparently large.

Meanwhile. Bing!

Digmen1




msg:3938007
 5:46 am on Jun 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

As I said in another thread that although I think Google have done us all a service with their search engine, the fact is that they have spawned a whole industry of useless content, bogus affiliates, and drop ship catalogs and ebooks that are really just a waste of time, as all they want is to get some clicks and make some money.

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3938051
 8:18 am on Jun 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

If they hadn't done it someone else would have. ;)

makemetop




msg:3938076
 9:07 am on Jun 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

Just to put a little perspective on this....

In the country with the World's largest number of internet users, I just looked at our stats from an international household brand to see what their organic stats were looking like for so far this month for one of their sites - for sessions leading to a revenue producing event:

Baidu = 88,221
Google (various) = 3,535
Others (Sina, SoSo etc) = 2,479

So, remember - Google does not rule the roost everywhere in the World!

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3938087
 9:48 am on Jun 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

How much business do you get from that part of the world compared to what you get from Google? ;)

makemetop




msg:3938089
 9:55 am on Jun 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

Google is the largest revenue producer globally certainly, by a large factor - but revenue seems to be increasing at around 30% per quarter from the Far East as more people get used to buying on-line on the sites I monitor - and we are not talking insignificant sums. So, who knows in a couple of years, what might happen :)

Marcia




msg:3946729
 4:54 am on Jul 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

Only 6 right now, so 9 aren't.

Future




msg:3947262
 10:45 pm on Jul 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

70% Yes and 30% No.

I have started generating a feeling, not to share anything, looking @ responses being received. (this is quite true if happens with rest)

But, its often observed, if its only me, I have to bare the circumstances.

Not a good life.. (my observations, practically seen with lots of senior members who never visit this site again now) unsure why

*********EDITED PART GOES HERE************

If being true to your opinions, any POWERFUL ENGINE/COMPANY today, thinks they are going to rule tomorrow, based on results they produce today, should be not correct...
Future is uncertainable, it will :-)

*********EDITED PART GOES HERE************

Hope, above lines make an impact (as a suggestion) for webmasterworld.
(I am annoyed on way things are taken here, specially search engine centric !).

[edited by: Future at 10:51 pm (utc) on July 6, 2009]

JohnRoy




msg:3948001
 12:07 am on Jul 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

I searched for the "recommend" link and didn't find it...
Until
Being a Senior Member I believe you have access to the recommend link at the bottom of topics? We can do our best and help keep the balance.

it's in the Message Thread Options row, just above the [new] quick reply...

Also, no need to be a senior to recommend.

engine




msg:3948471
 3:08 pm on Jul 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

Please recommend threads to help the cause.

Thanks

Brett_Tabke




msg:3951469
 12:12 pm on Jul 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

We hear you esllou, the admins take very seriously the posting of stories to the home page. It is not an easy thing to do to filter the stories. Most days, we take the top 3-4 stories for the homepage and go with it.

We are regularly "snipped" at from inside the search engines themselves. Trust me when I say, they don't hold our audience in the high regard that we do. We often get emails from se reps lamenting that we are getting too dark a color of hat. We used to be viewed as a community to be engaged in discussion with - that died with the metaphorical passing of GoogleGuy [webmasterworld.com]. Now we are most often viewed as a tool to be used [webmasterworld.com] for market research - not a community to be fostered.

We also get the occasional rant mail from white hatters that we are the internets den-of-ill-seo-repute and need to support se guidelines more than we do.

Then there are emails from folks like you, that think we have become too much setools. I know that feeling. We really try to seed other articles and topics as well, but in the end - we take the most popular ones we find in the forums.

Lets be honest - for 5-7 years, we have all been riding the G wave as it has come through. On the positive side, I think - like alot of internet pundits - has peaked. What's next?

>we're just helping to feed the beast, aren't we?

That opinion comes up from time to time. I like that it comes up because it keeps us conscious of the fact that there are two sides to this issue and if each side keeps poking us - then we must have found a good balance.

Google controls (depending on which ppopular stat service u read) about 65-75% of the searches on the internet. However, most webmasters I have talked too, the figure is probably closer to 85-90% in the real world (we run 92% of our referrals from Google on this site). Most webmasters don't even consider Yahoo or Bing when optimizing and targeting content.

So ya - we hear the All-Google-All-The-Time refrain, but I would say the internet is All-Google-All-The-Time and we must reflect that.

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3951516
 1:36 pm on Jul 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Bing increased its market share last month by greater than 1% and it is receiving many positive reviews so perhaps we will be seeing more Bing stories on the front page in the not too distant future.

Perhaps significantly, on one of my technical websites Bing traffic has ovetaken Yahoo!

Brett_Tabke




msg:3951517
 1:39 pm on Jul 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Food for thought:

The current - and for the last year - top referrer to WebmasterWorld, is the Javascript forum. That has been true, on and off since the start of the javascript forum. Think about that for a bit...

JohnRoy




msg:3951572
 3:20 pm on Jul 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

but in the end - we take the most popular ones we find in the forums.
True to a certain point.
However, many times threads become popular only after reaching the home page.

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