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webmasterworld screen width too large
display problem on 1024px screen
moTi

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 12:37 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

hi! i see most threads displaying with a horizontal scrollbar at the moment.
the layout is about 40px too wide for a 1024px display. it's annoying.
is it a glitch or a new "design feature"? if the latter, you should know that 1024px is hot right now with the netbooks and people will be shifting again to this screen resolution big time in the future. so nothing gained if designing exclusively for wider screens.

[edited by: moTi at 12:42 am (utc) on Oct. 11, 2008]

 

vincevincevince

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 12:48 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Provided you are using a reasonably recent browser, just 'page zoom' out a bit. With Firefox, try [control] and [-]. It's a sticky setting which will be remembered when you return.

Incidentally I managed to push WebmasterWorld at default size down to about 500px width before seeing horizontal scrollbars (Firefox 3.0.1 Linux)

moTi

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 1:05 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

yes, but shouldn't a visitor with kind of normal screen setup expect a page content to display without shrinking it manually under 100 percent? i mean, from a reasonable user-friendly perspective.

super70s

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 1:51 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm with moTi, this new screen width sucks. This on top of the fact that you never could see which threads you've already visited in this awkwardly designed forum.

GaryK

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 3:44 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm confused; that's nothing new. ;)

What new screen width? I normally set the browser width to about half my screen width which leaves me with a browser window that's roughly 1000px wide and it looks fine. I'm able to narrow my browser window to about 700px before I see a horizontal scroll bar. I've got the same basic set as Vince.

Did Brett change something?

[edited by: GaryK at 3:45 am (utc) on Oct. 11, 2008]

tangor

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 6:55 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Seems to have changed... I'm running 1680x1050 on a 24" LCD... and I can't read it native res and normal text. Zoom in three clicks and I can read it just fine.... but I can't narrow the browser more than 1000px... horizontal scroll appears. Don't mind reading WW full screen, though it would be nice if the text areas would word wrap. Merely a request!

GaryK

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 8:24 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I guess it has changed. I'm not seeing it though. It all looks the same as it ever was. I wonder why. I'm using Fx 3.0.3 on WinXP. How about you? I also tried IE6, IE7, Opera 9.6 and Safari 3.1.

phranque

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 11:29 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

i'm on a 1024 res screen with ff2 and no scrollbar.

moTi

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 1:25 pm on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

what? i've just tested on vista with ie8, ff 3.0.3, opera 9.5 and safari 3.1. horizontal scrollbar everywhere on a 1024px screen, except safari. so what's going on here?

ken_b

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 4:19 pm on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm sure not seeing this. I'm using a 1280 wide screen with a browser window set at about 800 pix and the site is flexible in width. If I open the window full width the site just widens.

It looks like the WebmasterWorld pages are set to 90% of the window or so.

I have to crunch the window down to about 600 pix before I get a scroll bar.

I'm using FF3.0.1 and XP Home edition.

On IE 7.0.x I get the scroll bar when I narrow the window down to about 600 pix.

Marcia

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 7:53 am on Oct 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

No a problem with a 17" Compaq monitor off the shelf using 1024x768 resolution, neither was there when I first used a 10+ year old monitor on this computer before hooking up the new one.

These pages are a tables layout that's percentage-based, if you look at the HTML.

Check the "buttons" on front of the monitor for adjustment of the screen display. That's what I had to do when this monitor was first set up, for every site on the web, so that the display would properly fit into the browser window. I'm no techie, it's a simple adjustment.

GaryK

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 7:15 pm on Oct 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Marcia, shouldn't a properly-designed site adjust to you and not the other way around?

adb64

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 7:32 pm on Oct 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't see this on WW.
I checked with FF3 and I can go to a width of about 600 px before I get a scrollbar.

jatar_k

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 1:41 pm on Oct 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

hmmm, I don't see it, I use a width less than 1024 most of the time and only on certain threads, due to gigantic unwrappable content, do I get a scrollbar

nothing has changed on our side so I am baffled as to what the issue could be

moTi

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 6:15 pm on Oct 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

ok, i checked into the webmasterworld control panel and the reason was a wrongly adjusted form input width in the system preferences (didn't know that one can alter that). i'm sure that i didn't touch this before, but it was set to 110 percent. sorry for the false alarm.

[edited by: moTi at 6:26 pm (utc) on Oct. 13, 2008]

super70s

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 1:40 am on Oct 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

I didn't know anything about that either, and mine was also set to 110. 80 seems to be about right for my 800 x 600 resolution.

Marcia

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 2:14 am on Oct 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

>>Marcia, shouldn't a properly-designed site adjust to you and not the other way around?

Of course, which is why a percentage based tables layout works so well for cross-browser compatibility (which is a good enough reason to stay with tables for layout).

But when a brand new monitor isn't "filling" the window properly and no sites render properly (like loads of black to the left or right, top or bottom before display starts), the monitor needs some simple height and width adjustments. Set it once and it's fine.

GaryK

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 2:36 am on Oct 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

Thanks, Marcia. Now I understand what you meant. I should have known better, but still, it left me wondering.

moTi, I'm glad you got the situation resolved. I set my input width to 110 and sure enough I saw the same thing you were seeing. So you definitely found and fixed the problem. :)

jatar_k

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 12:59 pm on Oct 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

thanks moTi for the solution, that's something we can watch for in the future

Green_Grass

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 1:26 pm on Oct 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

My input width was also 110 .. Fixed it.. Thanks.. First time I ever went there.

KlingWRAP

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 12:48 am on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yeah...it's way too wide...never used to be like this...HELP!

GaryK

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 1:08 am on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi KlingWRAP. At the top of the page click Control Panel. Then click System Preferences and look for Form Input Width. Set it to a more reasonable number for you.

outland88

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Msg#: 3763344 posted 8:58 pm on Oct 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

I tried the solution and it worked for separate threads but now it has jumped to wide screen (scrolling right to left etc)for all threads in forums. Somebody dropped the ball because I don't see a correction for this.

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