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Adsense Serving on WebmasterWorld.com
Captain

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 3:45 am on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)
I just noticed Adsense being served on webmasterWorld.com forum. Is there a thread about this decision?

Personaly, The ads don't bother me, I am happy to see Brett monetizing the site.

 

Jon_King

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 1:25 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Ahhh... Spring has arrived and WebmasterWorld code nymphs are foolin' 'round.

Paris

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 3:06 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

My guess it's that it's an April Fool's Day joke, yet one that Brett won't mind monetizing.

For those who feel that the site would rake in the dough through AdSense, have you factored into that decision:
-- The poor clickthrough rates on forums in general
-- The practically nil clickthrough rate on this particular category where as AdSense publishers we avoid clicking on AdSense ads

Whether the links are real (and notice how we are so gun-shy that we're not following them through) or not, Brett is certainly entitled to a little ad revenue from Big G from time to time (even if this becomes a once a year tradition -- if the ads are real). Lord knows how much this community has contributed to Google's bottom line over the years by pooling together great white hat tips for optimization.

malachite

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 3:17 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Brett will be lucky to clear $0.30 at the end of April 1

Not to mention we've been drawing so much attention to the ads he probably should've got banned already by half-past midnight ;)

trannack

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 4:12 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

One word. Naff.

sonny

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 4:21 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

they're real, alright

sonny

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 4:41 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

had kind of forgotten about botw.org. Got a sale from me.

MThiessen

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 4:47 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

I posted this in the supporters forum then realized it would be a better fit here: (delete the one in the supporters forum please)

The sheer lack of moderator or admin input, IE: the closed lips on this subject, is evidence it is a joke/or experiment.

Think about it. If *YOU* owned WebmasterWorld and wanted to experiment with adsense but did not want to fry your userbase, why not *use* April Fool's Day as a means to experiment? Hey if everyone hates it, you can say "bwahahaha April Fools! hehehe" HOWEVER if it is silently accepted, OR only a minimum amount of flack, well hey then! Leave them! Either way WebmasterWorld gets a day's worth of adsense funds, at pretty much ZERO risk.

Perfect timing to experiment with adsense.

Brett_Tabke

WebmasterWorld Administrator brett_tabke us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 4:53 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

All subscription funds from todays fun will be donated to charity.

> Good adsense of humour Brett!

hehe. Wish all felt that way.

MThiessen

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 4:55 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just curious Brett, can you tell us in a ball-park figure what it earned for today? Be interested in reading those results tommorrow :)

Brett_Tabke

WebmasterWorld Administrator brett_tabke us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 4:59 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

lol - that would get me removed from the program right?

Remember, even talking about the existence of the program is grounds for dismissal ;-)

It's not a real test because it isn't even close to optimized. The blend baby - all about the blend.

abbeyvet

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 4:59 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anything we can do to encourage more PSA's at this point

Sure, wrap ALL your content in <!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->

Then add a hidden div with:
<!-- google_ad_section_start -->
charity, charity, charity.
<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

That should do it - and Google will just LOVE it. :)

You've done pretty good on targetting MFAs and other undesirables so far. I tip my hat. :)

MThiessen

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 5:04 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Remember, even talking about the existence of the program is grounds for dismissal ;-)

LOL really? We need to remove the Adsense forum completely then...

Good joke btw, EVERYONE is buzzing about it lol.

mzanzig

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 5:13 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

that would get me removed from the program right?

No. Actually, real revenues earned are the ONLY thing you are allowed to share with others (however, not pageviews, CTR, eCPM, or other indicators).

Hobbs

WebmasterWorld Senior Member hobbs us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 5:44 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

You'll need to make $100 first to be able to receive the money and donate it to charity Brett, unless those ads all around and under us are cpm, I betting you're $60 short at the end of the day, and $99.98 up on a publicity stunt.

MThiessen

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 5:47 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Boy BOTW must be spending a fortune on ads here LOL they are everywhere!

jomaxx

WebmasterWorld Senior Member jomaxx us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 6:02 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Andrew, Bddmed, you both need to lighten up. I don't see any encouraging of clicks at all. While technically there should probably not be a thread discussing the ads, it's obviously impossible to expect that to happen on WW.

In any case Google staff are well acquainted with WW and would love to land it as a publisher. And I bet there are already advertisers running CPM campaigns targeting the site.

MThiessen

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 6:11 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

In any case Google staff are well acquainted with WW and would love to land it as a publisher. And I bet there are already advertisers running CPM campaigns targeting the site.

Don't know if they would "love" to have them, all the "I lost my account" folks retaliating against the webmaster community by power-clicking, thinking they are "getting back" at the webmaster community.

There ARE CPMs running rampant right now, G didn't waste a moment. I would bet G knew before hand.

Anyone in there right mind running a site like WebmasterWorld would ask G FIRST, explain the possiblity of click fruad from disgruntals, and get an OK *first*. I suspect WebmasterWorld and G have talked well before today on this. That would explain the CPM ads running immediately.

fischermx

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 6:44 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Brett:

How will you know the revenues generated on webmasterworld if you didn't ad a channel to the ads code?

... unless you opened this adsense account exclusively for use today and here..

incrediBILL

WebmasterWorld Administrator incredibill us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 5+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 6:50 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

lol - that would get me removed from the program right?

No, you're allowed to discuss earnings, just not supposed to discuss eCPM.

Bddmed said:
Not only that, it's stealing from advertisers too. You've got so much attention for the ads, I doubt there is any valid click generated on this site today. Advertisers are not in this game for charity. They are spending their money to see some profit.

Dude, if you had any sense of entrepreneurship you would be doing site targeted ads on WebmasterWorld today like a few people are and make some sales instead of crying advertiser foul.

I'm sure some people that craved ad space on WebmasterWorld are making out like bandits today while others sit and moralize about it while the clock ticks and opportunity slips through their fingers.

I'd prefer Brett kept the ads as I have something to advertise next month, just not today.

asas111

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 6:56 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

I could swear to you that just a few days ago, I was going to open a new topic with the title "How Ironic that WW doesn't have Adsense" knowing how we have a full forum topic to discuss AdSense!

I come online today, and there they are.

I can't beleive how arrogant and jealous some people can be, those criticising the webmaster (Brett?)

You guys are using this site, and getting all these tips for free, and you are getting mad the poor hard working webmaster is making money? get a life seriously.

RonS

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 7:29 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

OMG this is SO Strange!

I got a referral through AdWords from THIS topic on WW!

And - here's the kicker...

I don't use AdWords!

The keyphrase (from UrchinTracker) is

Brett Tabke No Advertising

WTH?

incrediBILL

WebmasterWorld Administrator incredibill us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 5+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 8:16 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

OK, now the ads on the PORN TLD thread are hysterical:
[webmasterworld.com...]

I'm seeing stuff for sex offender sites in the leaderboard and baby things in the skyscraper, addressing both natural markets related to porn ;)

incrediBILL

WebmasterWorld Administrator incredibill us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 5+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 9:19 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Not only should you keep AdSense on WebmasterWorld, but allow posters to get 50% of the rotation for threads they started.

WhiteWebServices

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 10:16 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well I enjoyed the joke, though for the sake of the regulars perhaps the ads could've been up for less time.

Had it been for real, I'd have expected much better implementation.

On a more serious note, it has made me think about reducing the number of ads I show on a couple of my sites; really does make a difference.

joelgreen

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 10:34 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

How will you know the revenues generated on webmasterworld if you didn't ad a channel to the ads code

by setting URL channel

davewray

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 11:41 pm on Apr 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

You think Brett will ONLY make 0.30? You're nuts! The traffic to WW is enormous...and even if he only sees a 0.25% ctr and an average of 0.10/click..he'll still rack in hundreds!

Hey Brett, just as a favour...I'm going to start a fresh thread in the affiliate forum on how to make money in the Meso...oh, should I? Mesothel...hmmm... MESOTHELIOMA industry...there, said it! hehe.

Dave.

SteveWh

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 12:21 am on Apr 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Not drawing attention to the ads refers only to the site owner/webmaster making any statement equivalent to "Please click on my ads." There's no prohibition against third parties discussing them.

AFD joke or not, I don't mind them, and have questioned the WW no-ads policy ever since the first time I saw it. Seemed like they were passing up an opportunity. It's difficult to make money from a content site. If it continues, hope they do ok with it.

Even if they're not clicked, they give the pages some color and decoration.

If ads are too well blended into a site, I don't even see them. IMO it's better if they stand out *as* ads. Part of the page is content; part is ads. Nothing to be ashamed of; no need to pretend; no need to disguise them.

Brett_Tabke

WebmasterWorld Administrator brett_tabke us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 1:17 am on Apr 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Brings up an interesting point though SteveWh - what do you do in forums where nicknames are used and no one knows who the website (or adsense act holder) really is? There were people here today clearly encouraging mayhem (hence the removable of about 5 posts from this thread) that would have been against the adsense tos.

Quadrille

WebmasterWorld Senior Member quadrille us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 1:47 am on Apr 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've no objection to the ads - WebmasterWorld has as much right as anyone to host ads, surely?

But if you are going to surrender a whole column for a 120x600 skyscraper, i think you need to consider the design; just shrink your window to see what the folks with small screens get ... not nice.

I'd stick with the lansdscape options - or look at page design.

Robert Charlton

WebmasterWorld Administrator robert_charlton us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 2:06 am on Apr 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

IMO, the ads are ugly and distracting, and should be a wake-up call to those who haven't become WebmasterWorld supporters.

I'll be fascinated to learn how much Brett is sacrificing by keeping the site ad-free. An April Fool's joke, perhaps, but an interesting test too.

matimer

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3299440 posted 2:48 am on Apr 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

isn't this just an april fools joke?

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