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Intel Recall
outland88




msg:4263806
 7:22 pm on Feb 7, 2011 (gmt 0)

Apparently the new Intel chipsets have a design flaw forcing a recall on many of the next generation computers being released. From what I see many manufacturers such as Dell, HP, Gateway, Acer were slowly discontinuing there first generation I-7 machines but now they have few second generation machines to sell until April.

[informationweek.com...]

 

J_RaD




msg:4264473
 12:49 am on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

i run all AMD systems :-)

wheel




msg:4264474
 1:00 am on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

This is the second time Intel's sent out chips that couldn't add. They did this back in the 80's if I recall, with 386's or 486's.

outland88




msg:4264810
 7:18 pm on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

This was a major disappointment for me. I was getting ready to buy two of the new i7 2600 machines and they were pulled from the market. The i7 870ís seems to have dried up also. AMD will definitely profit from this.

J_RaD




msg:4264912
 11:49 pm on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

save yourself some cash and go with a 6 core AMD black.

wheel




msg:4264928
 12:52 am on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

Really?

I had a 2.8ghz for like over 5 years, never needed more power. I just upgraded to a 3 core AMD and it's way more power than I need. My wife has the same machine but with an SSD drive and I can't imagine needing more desktop horsepower in the next decade. There's just nothing at the desktop level that we do that uses horsepower.

BillyS




msg:4264940
 2:06 am on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

I was pretty disappointed to learn the chipset had a problem. I had been waiting for the 2600K for my next build. Now it looks like I'll have to wait until April.

The delay might even force me to wait on a second technology due out this year... SSDs based on the SF-2000 series controller.

J_RaD




msg:4265205
 4:15 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)


Really?

I had a 2.8ghz for like over 5 years, never needed more power. I just upgraded to a 3 core AMD and it's way more power than I need. My wife has the same machine but with an SSD drive and I can't imagine needing more desktop horsepower in the next decade. There's just nothing at the desktop level that we do that uses horsepower.


whaaaaaaaaaaat? even lightweight video editing/rendering will bring your system to a stand still. I'm looking for a ram upgrade as i would like to have a few extra VM's running on my different monitors, heck im even looking for more monitors! i think a total of 4 - 6 would be PERFECT!

if you don't need more power you are doing it wrong ;-)

wheel




msg:4265207
 4:17 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

lol. I do web stuff and business stuff. No video editing. I got an upgrade this year mainly because I was concerned the machine was going to be so old that it would die on me one day.

Same with my servers - I think they're like 7 years old. Should replace them soon, but my web pages serve up just fine. And I've got complete duplicate hardware offsite. Hard to justify the time and expense of an upgrade.

outland88




msg:4265254
 5:59 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

They claim the 2600K now finally bests all offerings by AMD. Most of the new machines only contained the 2600 though. I don't know about the faster Intel chips yet because they didn't seem to be out at time of recall.

J_RaD




msg:4265349
 8:22 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)


lol. I do web stuff and business stuff. No video editing. I got an upgrade this year mainly because I was concerned the machine was going to be so old that it would die on me one day.

Same with my servers - I think they're like 7 years old. Should replace them soon, but my web pages serve up just fine. And I've got complete duplicate hardware offsite. Hard to justify the time and expense of an upgrade.


video stuff is now "web stuff" as the web becomes more video driven...

at any given time, im running 2 mail clients, 2 different versions of web browsers, FTP client, dreamweaver, skype, winamp,etc etc etc all that stuff starts to add up....and its all daily usage.

then if i wanna fire up and do any video editing im not shutting everything down just to do one single task *gag*, do a little real time overclocking and keep on moving.


WEB servers yea i can see letting them get old and crusty, LAN file servers nope, dual gigabit, raid....... heck i've got my own house wired with gigabit ethernet.... wifi is for people watching laughing cats on youtube.

tangor




msg:4265353
 8:33 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

at any given time, im running 2 mail clients, 2 different versions of web browsers, FTP client, dreamweaver, skype, winamp,etc etc etc all that stuff starts to add up....and its all daily usage.


When do you have time to ride your bicycle? Or sleep? :)

J_RaD




msg:4265429
 11:26 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

bike comes 1st thing in the morning..... sleep? hmmmmmm

BillyS




msg:4265475
 2:37 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

heck i've got my own house wired with gigabit ethernet.... wifi is for people watching laughing cats on youtube.


Really? I never thought of Wifi speed as the week link in most systems. You must have a mighty fast internet connection at home. I've only 25 Mbps.

wheel




msg:4265480
 2:54 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I don't imagine wifi's great for doing high bandwidth things like transferring files between machines. My house is also wired for gigabit ethernet, into a patch panel with a high end switch. Alas, all that power drains into a stupid little 5mbit internet connection.

J_RaD




msg:4265488
 3:09 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)


Really? I never thought of Wifi speed as the week link in most systems. You must have a mighty fast internet connection at home. I've only 25 Mbps.


wifi sucks....period.

home routers suck...period.

im running a 20 port gigabit swtich that all the nodes connect to, moving files go in a flash, streaming is the same... everything on the LAN is flawless.

if i tried doing that with a home "router" the routers buffer would get full and it would start slowing down, i've watched in real time home routers start off fast and just get slower till its down to 10/base-T

no thanks.

for your house put all your nodes on a simple unmanaged gigabit swtich, then let the home router be the way out to the slow 20meg(or less) internet connection. You'll get best results this way without the silly do it all switch router NAT box crapping on itself. *gag* blah!

once you got to a proper wired gigabit connection you'll understand what awesome is. i'd do fiber if it wasn't so fsck-ing expensive.

[edited by: J_RaD at 3:22 am (utc) on Feb 11, 2011]

J_RaD




msg:4265490
 3:19 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)


They claim the 2600K now finally bests all offerings by AMD.


well that depends, you could get an AMD 6 core operton socket F.............. just sayin :-)

BillyS




msg:4265496
 4:12 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

wifi sucks....period.

I have no problems with my wifi set up. It works flawlessly. I don't find my LAN bandwidth to be the limiting factor at all, it's ususally my internet connection or hardware transfer speeds.

Maybe you have a data center at home with dozens of 15,000 RPM SCSIs screaming. I'm not sure why you'd be talking fiber if you didn't. I'm also not transfering gigs of data all the time.

And if you're afraid of intel's chipset problem (not CPU, there seems to be some confusion), you'd be better off waiting to see what bulldozer has to offer than to grab a phenom from AMD.

J_RaD




msg:4265499
 4:50 am on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

im not afraid of intel, im already running AMD and see no reason to change.


I have no problems with my wifi set up. It works flawlessly. I don't find my LAN bandwidth to be the limiting factor at all,


have fun with youtube...........you are the demographic now! :-)

Maurice




msg:4265652
 3:27 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

@J_RaD

you have seen the benchmarks the unlocked sandy bridge parts destroy everything up to the $1000 extream parts

J_RaD




msg:4265672
 3:50 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

well i don't buy 100% on benchmarks... i look at the cost and how much better that other part is, if the price vs how much better it is doesn't sit well with me i choose.

and i've been choosing AMD for a long time, intels chip prices have been out of this universe for a while...maybe if it starts coming back to reality i'll buy them again.

outland88




msg:4265977
 2:29 am on Feb 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

And if you're afraid of intel's chipset problem (not CPU, there seems to be some confusion)


No confusion, it is the chipset.

J_RaD just have a few icy cold ones and keep repeating to yourself, I am a good person. Good people buy Intel. :)

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