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Computer Running Poorly
processor problem?
Demonic lust



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 2:51 am on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

hello:) back again...
well my prob started like 4 weeks ago with my cpu fan getting noisy..asked around for reason and my 1st post here been bout it..got advices 2 give it a clean up and others 2 buy a market one...did both just 1 thing i did more which i dont know is right or wrong yet(removed the thermal paste) and as searched around for a new cooler(limited options where i live) only found: Cooler Master X Dream K641... my pc is 2 months old around..when i 1st bought it it was performing quite fine..then it started slowing down a bit and some also referred the prob 2 the stock cooler...right after i changed to X Dream i didnt feel any kind of change somehow..i mainly use the pc for gaming..mostly for just 1 game(silkroad online)be4 any prob shows up i was running like 10 clients with a max of 45% processor usage and temp never came anywhere near 50..since after the prob started 2 show up i've been testing with just 1 client and results been: 45% usage temp at idle be4 client: 39-45, as client works: 50-60(sometimes keeps rising and i wonder how come the pc doesn't shut as processor exceeded its max temp:62)(did no overclocking) so started searching around..cpu usage went fine as it was a matter of windows just depending on 1 core so i set it to use the 4...read around that an answer to my problem might be a bios update..updated the bios somehow helped by decreasing like 7C..but yet remains the prob that my pc lags like a 90s one from the least thing even while just using msn:/ its getting to much annoy me and get me worried as i almost tried everything i could think of or find around by googling my prob...simply just cant at all use the pc for anything:/ am getting to doubt anymore is a matter of processor prob as without any kind of load on it it heats up and pc slows like hell(just what im thinking)..i hope to find my answer here(is it a processor prob? or might be mobo? or sth there affecting it to heat up?) and i kept it as my last option so as not to lose hope of having my maniac pc back 2 normal...really would hate having to take it back 2 the store i bought it from as is out of town and will be a great time waste:/...


some other issue i wanted to ask bout: what is unganged and ganged dual channel? does AMD support triple channel? will dual channel still work if i used 3x(2gb) ram sticks? or 2x1x1? some progs read i got dual channel activated but there on AMD forum they said 3 ram sticks r enough 2 get me back 2 single...false prog readings? or am yet on dual channel but not getting max performance? i moved out my 3rd ram stick till i get quite an ensured advice bout it..
hopefully i didnt bother:) thanks in advance:)

some screens with 1 client running(with nothing running but msn i always have usage at 2-4% and temp from 39-50):
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CPU-Z without client running:
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Spec:
MOBO: MSI 790GX-G65
Processor: Phenom IIx4 955B.E
Ram: 2x(2gb) Kingston
Graphic Card: ATI Radeon HD 5700 1gb
HDD: WD 500GB: green
PS: OCZ stealthxstream 600w
Case: Cooler Master Eliete333
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate-64bits

[edited by: eelixduppy at 10:56 am (utc) on May 14, 2010]
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J_RaD

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 1:43 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

in order to run dual channel properly you can't just stick any ole chip in, they have to be paired and you have to keep them in pairs.

2,4,6

if you have processor useage always hanging around 45% no matter what you are doing you have a rouge process that is hung and eating up clock cycles, which causes the heat to rise and build.

pull up task manager, go to the processes tab, show processes from all users, then sort them all by the highest CPU. The one with the highest number that always keeps coming back up end it, see what happens.

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you could also do something as simple as booting from a live ubuntu CD and reading your stats in that to corner it down to a system issue and NOT a hardware issue. Sucks that you've already spent money on this issue and nothing has been resolved.

Demonic lust



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 2:00 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

well my mobo got only 4 ram slots...2 black 2 blue: from what i understood as reading around that the 2 rams got 2 be in same color slots...is true? when checking with EVEREST benchmark it says: unganged dual channel...this means?

my processor usage no more hangs that high without any process running its at 4-8% but once i launch any process it seems like taking double what it used be4... i just made fresh system installation in case i had something wrong on the other one and no kind of change shows:S

J_RaD

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 4:17 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

no that is not always true.

look by the slots should say something like
DIMM 1A DIMM 2A

Demonic lust



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 4:27 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

so whats where i should add the rams?
considering my temp prob? any ideas what could be the reason?:S

J_RaD

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 5:43 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

you replaced the heat sink, you applied thermal paste correctly. All bases covered. Have you tried manually setting fan speed in the BIOS? I would manually set it to medium and see what that brings you.

How hot is in inside your current location?

Demonic lust



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 6:23 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

is 24 here...could that be a reason for the processor's high temp?:o
considering the heat sink and thermal paste yea am pretty sure r applied correctly as i just bought the cooler and got it steady on the processor... what bases u mean? for manually setting the fan speed...well am not so good at that and dunno how :$ if u can instruct me ill much appreciate it... could it be a PSU prob?:o

J_RaD

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 11:17 pm on May 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

no this can't be a PSU problem.

Are you comfortable navagating the BIOS?

Demonic lust



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 3:36 pm on May 15, 2010 (gmt 0)

i guess ill after all have 2 take it to where i bought it from as its now dead...i start it fans and everything spin everything got power connected to but there is no beep or monitor display:/

lammert

WebmasterWorld Senior Member lammert us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 4:51 am on May 16, 2010 (gmt 0)

No monitor or beep means something screwed up terribly inside. Either the CPU fried, the memory is bad, or the PSU died. Given the history of your problems I would guess this box needs a CPU replacement now. After overheating problems due to inadequate cooling CPUs often work for some days or weeks before dying completely. You may have reached that point now.

Demonic lust



 
Msg#: 4132361 posted 5:02 am on May 16, 2010 (gmt 0)

thanks for the hint:) ill guess is what ill have to do just hope i wont be stuck and have 2 pay for a new one and that it would be just replacement due to the warranty

thanks for the help really appreciated:)

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