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is Number of visits equal to daily number of newspapers?
comparing broadcasting compatibility
hamids54

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 4:15 pm on Feb 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

I have had a health and medicine website in local language from 8 years ago .I have 33k daily visits .96% of my users are local.

I want to compare broadcasting compatibility my website with large newspapers . I want to compare with a newspaper that belongs to government that has 50 years history. it has 100k daily numbers.

how I can compare my website with it?

using number of visits is a good factor for comparing with daily number of newspapers?

 

LifeinAsia

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 5:08 pm on Feb 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

It's really comparing apples and oranges (or more like apples and horses). Web and print are completely different media and usually target different markets with very different audiences with different demographics.

If the newspaper has an online version, comparing online stats might be a better metric. But even then, you'd be comparing a newspaper's site (which has a wide focus from world news, local news, business, health, sports, etc.) with a niche site (focusing on health and medicine).

hamids54

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 5:42 pm on Feb 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

my mean for the comparing is comparing power of broadcasting.

if a newspaper can broadcast a news on its first page for 100
k readers and if I have 100k visitors per day and insert it the same news on my main page do you think less that the 100k readers know about the news ? what is the difference?

LifeinAsia

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 6:12 pm on Feb 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

do you think less that the 100k readers know about the news ?

It all depends on where people go first to get their news as well as the timing. Personally, I tend to read the morning paper before I go to CNN (dot) com or any other news sites. However, I'll probably check FaceBook before reading the paper, so I will most likely see any news stories that my friends have shared (but I may not actually read the stores for more details). Then again, many of the newspaper's front page stories are ones I already saw the previous day on CNN.

Other people are different- many people I know don't even bother with newspapers any more, especially those younger than me.

lucy24

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 10:02 pm on Feb 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

On one side: For newspapers as with any periodical, you need to look at the fine print. Literally fine print, and the information will probably not appear in every edition. (Mosts likely depending on applicable law.) It's not how many issues are printed but how many are sold.

On the other side: A physical newspaper-- again as with anything that's physically printed-- will have more than 1.0 readers per copy printed. Numbers will depend on the newspaper. Someone may look over your shoulder when you visit a www site, but it's far less common. You don't leave your laptop on the bus for someone else to browse the same sites. Well, not intentionally anyway ;)

hamids54

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 11:40 pm on Feb 4, 2013 (gmt 0)

I think browsing a website is like newspaper.on newspaper you may look as some titles or maybe reading whole a news or articles .on websites like it happens exactly.

doesn`t it means when you buy a newspaper you are the IP visitor that wants to browse the newspaper ?

LifeinAsia

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 12:07 am on Feb 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

Newspaper:
- 1 buyer may equal many readers (original buyer leaves the paper on the bus for someone else to read), Similarly, each printed paper does not necessarily get read by someone
- each reader may not necessarily read every article

Web:
- each page view by unique IP address *may* indicate a unique viewer (some people may come back to re-read a page with a different IP, several different people may share the same IP address, spiders/bots don't count as people, etc.)
- page views on a certain article more or less does indicate that person saw the article

Again, it's an apples/oranges comparison. In some ways they are similar, but it's really hard to compare exactly.

And it depends on the purpose of the comparison. If you are trying to compare your site's visitors to the newspaper's subscription rates as justification for trying to charge more money than the newspaper for advertising, I don't think the comparison is valid. Print advertisers and online advertisers use different metrics.

hamids54

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 7:13 am on Feb 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

The newspaper that I mentioned has some big buildings with many clients with 50 years history.

when you have any media with huge audiences definitely you have power.

now I have 33k Ip visitors per day may be some years later I have 100k Ip visitors. my question is when I have 100k ip visitors do I have power of the newspaper for broadcasting
or not?if yes then I have got the power just by 1 person instead of the history and equipments . I want to got answer this question .

lucy24

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 8:22 am on Feb 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

do I have power of the newspaper for broadcasting

What does this mean? I can't tell if it's purely a language issue (non-native speaker) or if you're talking about something more specific. Maybe something that only has meaning in your area. What is a "client" of a newspaper? Or is it the buildings that have clients?

I want to got answer this question

What do you plan to do with the answer?

hamids54

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 12:54 pm on Feb 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

first I must apologize for my english that is not fluent.

my meaning for ``power`` is authority . when you have great media with huge audiences you have authority to dictate any thing you like.the authority give you many things like wealth and fame.when you have a great media maybe by one article or news you can change many life aspects of your audiences.

Then I want to know when I reach 100k visitors per day , do I have the authority that the newspaper now has or not?

LuckyLiz



 
Msg#: 4542281 posted 4:43 pm on Feb 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

authority . when you have great media with huge audiences you have authority to dictate any thing you like.the authority give you many things like wealth and fame.when you have a great media maybe by one article or news you can change many life aspects of your audiences.


I suspect there are far too many language and cultural differences to give you a specific answer about the power of your site. For instance, in the US even the largest newspapers and websites in the country can't "dictate" anything they want. They publish their opinions in editorials, but they can't force anyone to follow what they say. But the word "dictate" that you used might not be a good translation of what you want to know.

If the 33K daily visits are real people an not bots, it sounds like you have a decent sized audience. Especially if they are repeat visitors and fans who follow you and link to you and promote you in other ways. One that in the US you'd probably be able to make money from by selling advertising or products or services. (To answer the "wealth" part of your question.)

Hope this helps a bit.

LifeinAsia

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 4:55 pm on Feb 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

Subscriber/papers/site visitors is not an absolute indication of authority. The National Enquirer (U.S. tabloid) supposedly has a circulation of more than half a million, yet most people certainly would not consider it an "authority." LOL Cats probably gets several million visitors. Authority site? No way.

hamids54

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 7:10 pm on Feb 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

instead of the word dictation I think it is better to say influence .definitely when you have a website with 500k daily ip visitors you can have more influences on your society than a site with 10k.when you have huge audiences then you have a big media.

in fact us media`s are dictating any thing that they want and like you know.never us politicians let anyone that oppose us policy have big media`s and broadcast their ideas like muslims or communists.

maybe there is not any dictatorship on us media apparently but they influence you the way that like good or bad.I want to have the position on my society by my website.

lucy24

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 12:09 am on Feb 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Uhm... Do you think that if you ask some specific question in these forums, and you get a Yes answer, you can then go back to your www site and start telling people what to do, and they will do what you say?

hamids54

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Msg#: 4542281 posted 8:54 am on Feb 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

I wanted to know if a site with 100k ip visitors daily can influence on society as a newspaper with 100k numbers daily does . you believe no. and I don`t talk about it any more. thanks for your replies.

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