mack

msg:4448190 | 11:26 pm on May 1, 2012 (gmt 0) |
A lot of design companies will have their own CMS system that can be tailored to a customers needs. As opposed to a full install that would be overkill, they are able to offer only what the client requires. I have also saw a lot of companies offering open source CMS systems. Mack.
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marketingwebaus

msg:4448202 | 12:28 am on May 2, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Hi Mack, Thanks for your reply. Obviously some have their "own" CMS systems, but many i'm talking about are smaller designers who would not have the resources nor the know-how to build their own. So suspect there is one or more solutions that are being used and "whitelabeled". What open source CMS systems are you talking about? Definately not anything like Joomla, Wordpress, Drupal etc.....
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BeeDeeDubbleU

msg:4448284 | 7:38 am on May 2, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I think it very well could be Joomla and Wordpress. Many hosting companies for example offer a one click install of WP. Some designers specialise in this. I appreciate what you are saying here and if it is any consolation I am in the same boat. I have even started offering some clients free updates rather than have then hacking around what I have created for them.
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rocknbil

msg:4448546 | 4:38 pm on May 2, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Most of these companies won't have their own proprietary CMS. By the description ("cheap websites") they won't invest in that, and are probably using something open source (read: FREE) or third party solution like <gak> Weebly. They might not even be doing the work. There's a good deal of businesses (for lack of better word; entrepreneurs? Exploitists?) that simply manage outsourced contractors to do this work in a quantified process. Let the customer choose a free template, give it to a coder, have them build a Wordpress theme around it, have a less skilled person input the content and upload images, done. The only real work is in managing it and sending out the invoices. It does devalue the work, but there's another side you need to consider: adapt or die. Figure out a division of your work flow to accept similar pricing and procedures. OR, seek a different market that doesn't want cookie cutter approaches and emphasize why this is a better for the client in the long run. What happens then is the lower end cookie cutter producers cease to be your competition.
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marketingwebaus

msg:4449377 | 1:07 pm on May 4, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Turns out there are quite a few options i've found. www.concrete5.com www.surrealcms.com www.simplecms.com www.impresspages.com www.pagelime.com www.getperch.com Not sure which if any are the answer for me yet, but thought i'd post incase anyone else came across this thread. Most of these are not free, but the costs aren't too bad.
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rocknbil

msg:4449475 | 4:21 pm on May 4, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Why isn't Wordpress on your list? It's used a LOT. There's also modX, Drupal . . many others. Part of the choice is regular support and updates, ease of use, ease of install, system-lightweight.
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jimbeetle

msg:4449584 | 7:19 pm on May 4, 2012 (gmt 0) |
There are many more options than that, marketingwebaus. One CMS review site lists almost 100 platforms starting with the letter A alone. Find a good CMS comparison site and find a handful of platforms you're comfortable with for deeper investigation.
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