|Good overseas outsourcing sites? What countries do you outsource to?|
I've been using elance, and I'm wondering if there are other good sites to find affordable quality programmers/designers/content writers overseas...I've worked mostly with indian companies, some are a waste of time, others are great and really deliver.
If you are using overseas staff, what countries do you usually outsource to?
Anyone that can share their experience would be much appreciated...
I think there is good and bad in India, Pakistan, Philipines its unfair to generalise.
To get good value at low cost you have to do the upfront design work, write good contracts and be a good manager!
I find eLance expensive and more benefit to the coders not the buyers.
Any site that allows you to get a seller guarantee payment upfront , uses 3rd party escrow and transfers FoC for buyer and releases no funds until buyer is 100% happy is good enough, take your pick and take a gamble!
have you tried any sites yourself? I'm asking because I'd like to avoid the trial & error part of it. Like you said, Elance is expensive. Are there sites you have tried that are not expensive?
Based upon everything I've read "trial and error" is the price you pay.
There's lots of available guidance about "how to go about" the business of outsourcing but there's no formula for invariable success. I've read of folks who had a great experience with CommpanyX only to have a miserable 2d or 3rd time around experience, likely because CompanyX was overwhelmed by its success or lost key programmers to a competitor, etc.
The best advice appears to be 1) start small; 2) be very specific; 3) yes, look for evidence of past success; but, 4) above all, manage information (project details, expectations, duties, etc.) and money (escrow) with a high degree of . . . skill . . which likely only comes with the trial and error of experience.
Many of the nightmares related to poor code. If you don't know how to code you might have trouble spec-ing the the job. You might need a consultant somewhere in the loop.
OK...well I've done some trial and error myself now and thought I would share it here:
Elance has been working best so far, usually get a few high priced bids but there will be 1 or 2 cheap ones in there as well typically. Price is pretty much unrelated to quality of work, so always check for samples, and be sure to be very clear on what you expect in the finished product.
Getafreelancer also seems good, though I have yet to try anyone from there. But I do get lots of bids, I have a feeling that it might be a bit more hit and miss.
Also tried bestjobphillipines but so far have gotten very few responses and the people I've talked to have been flaky.
My advice would be to first do small/cheap projects that you know how to do yourself (but you don't want to spend the time doing). This way you'll know what bids are reasonable, and you'll be able to test out different service providers at low risk. You can find surprisingly cheap quality work this way.
If anyone has tried any other sites please post in here, and we can help save each other the time/headache of trial and error :)
Never heard of those.
There is a post here that lists the main 3 sites that most companies use. I am not going to reccomend any, sorry. Its more about the supplier you pick and how you manage the project than the site used, although the third site listed (see below) is more buyer-centric as opposed to eLance which is more like eBay and favours the sellers. Good luck!
Search Google/WW for "eLance Alternatives"