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Internet Outage Problems Caused By BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) Routing Tables Too Large
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msg:4695282
 4:41 pm on Aug 13, 2014 (gmt 0)

It seems many in the business knew this was going to happen, and it's likely to happen again until the routers have all been upgraded with more memory.

If you found your Internet speed has been pathetic today and some sites wouldn't load at all, you're not alone.Internet Outage Problems Caused By BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) Routing Tables Too Large [zdnet.com]
While an ISP maintenance activity may have played a factor, the real problem was that Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) routing tables have grown too large for some top-level Internet routers to handle. The result was that these routers could no longer properly handle Internet traffic.
Cisco also warned its customers in May that this BGP problem was coming and that, in particular, a number of routers and networking products would be affected. There are workarounds, and, of course the equipment could have been replaced. But, in all too many cases this was not done.


Earlier story
Net Outage Affecting Many Users Worldwide [webmasterworld.com]

 

incrediBILL




msg:4695289
 5:15 pm on Aug 13, 2014 (gmt 0)

This is the typical of a bureaucracy that only responds to a situation after it goes critical instead of planning ahead.

We've know this could happen for quite some time yet they sit on their thumbs.

Reminds me of a story of something that happened back when I was running a hosting company years ago Level 3 had an expensive piece of equipment fail. The only backup unit they had was located in the middle of California, 3 hours away from where it was needed. They sent someone in a car that took 3 hours to get there, and 3 hours to get back, so a large chunk of California had no internet while some flunky was taking a joy ride around the state and all of our customers were offline all day.

Makes you wonder why someone couldn't bring it from where it was stored instead of making everyone wait on a round trip delivery.

It's things like this, lack of redundancy, backups, fail overs, etc. that make the internet so famn fragile.

We depend heavily on the net, some people's very lives even depend on it such as using a VOIP phone and requiring 911 service. However, when the cable it out, you;'re screwed. However, the good old fashioned landlines and DSL would still be working right up until the worst disaster possible because they have their own power source and batteries along the phone system, often in your own backyard, you just don't know it.

Guess my point is that we're moving forward too fast without proper planning and issues like this will just get worse, not better.

The biggest problem is people think it's a god givenright to be on the internet and they're not willing to pay enough so it can be built out properly, have plenty of backup gear, etc.

Our cheapness is our weakness and the web is the most important part of our modern civilization and hardly a place to play it cheap.

If it were up to me, all the low cost and free websites would vanish unless they got a low income subsidy, so that all the spam and garbage would go away, which would reduce the number of crap domains and routing issues these guys have to deal with, and make the system more reliable since it was no longer full of trash.

Google's move to make HTTPS as a ranking signal is something I've advocated for years because HTTPS means you're legit, you're not some MFA site, because spammers can't make money buys SSL certs for domains that get dumped from the index on a daily basis.

It's all related, think about it.

We suffer because of all the crap and it's going to get much worse before it gets better.

</rant>

IanKelley




msg:4695731
 11:09 pm on Aug 14, 2014 (gmt 0)

This is something that's important for people to be aware of: US internet users pay some of the highest prices in the world, yet we lag way behind in infrastructure and speed.

Here's why [theweek.com]

The problem is not consumer cheapness, it's the corporations responsible for the infrastructure and the government's willingness to let them do whatever they want.

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