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The last person still using FrontPage
Buzliteyear

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 1:19 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

Hey guys,

I have been surviving for the past ten years using FrontPage and it's time to move up.

I've used FP because it is easy and I don't know HTML.

I'd like to find software that is still easy to use but allows me to do more with sites. Also one that will not create any problems with search results.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

 

BeeDeeDubbleU

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 1:46 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

Dreamweaver. :)

scooterdude



 
Msg#: 4415864 posted 2:09 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

i've fond memories of frontpage, still got it in the box as it never made it to ma new pc, I bought what is supposed to be its direct replacement Expression web 2,

Alas I'd fallen in love with notepad by the time the product arrived from Ama...

So i never installed that either, but perhaps you can investigate that

[microsoft.com...]

jinxed

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 2:32 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

Could be a good time to learn HTML?

Notepad is free :-)

BeeDeeDubbleU

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 2:48 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

Actually I learned HTML through using DW in codeview. DW makes things so much easier but it is not cheap.

Marshall

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 3:33 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

If you have Expression Web, MS has an upgrade with a free trial [microsoft.com ]

Marshall

rocknbil

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 4:44 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

With as many CMS's as there are out there, you should really give that a go. This is what most site owners are doing these days, it's seldom about static site files any more.

Once you get it installed (or, you can pay someone to do that and take over from there) there's no dealing with software or FTP. No worrying about messing up the page with an invalid html tag, you focus your efforts on the content. Some common examples are Wordpress, modX, Drupal . . . there are hundreds.

jinxed

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 4:45 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

I think I first used FP to learn HTML - but found I spent longer removing unnecessary code than I would have done just writing from scratch.

Panthro



 
Msg#: 4415864 posted 5:04 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

With as many CMS's as there are out there, you should really give that a go...


Imo, CMS's can be a good start but they sure have their own set of problems. I think they can be a good way to get more comfortable with html/php though.

driller41

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 4:40 pm on Feb 10, 2012 (gmt 0)

If you want to create plain html sites without databases ect then XSitePro is a great tool to use - much easier than dreamweaver - I use it myself and it is unbeatable for the straightforward type sites.

If you need a CMS type site then look elsewhere.

piatkow

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 9:49 am on Feb 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

I mostly use Notepad and occasionally NVU for static html.

Learning the basics of html took less than an hour but being and old mainframe dinosaur I had the benefit of being used to earlier markup languages.

I have found side benefits in learning html, I now output all business reports as html files as the format is far more versatile than csv and I don't have to worry about what word processor or spreadsheet the recipient is using.

lucy24

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 11:28 am on Feb 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

I now output all business reports as html files as the format is far more versatile than csv and I don't have to worry about what word processor or spreadsheet the recipient is using.

And here I thought I was the only person demented enough to use html (composed in SubEthaEdit) as a word processor :) Polished logs, grammatical tables, vocabulary lists, you name it.

A while back I got (and declined) a heavy sales pitch for Freeway. It came from someone who speaks fluent Fortran. I think this means Freeway does stuff without insulting your intelligence.

StoutFiles

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 3:01 pm on Feb 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

HTML is not hard to learn. Mixing it with CSS and multiple browsers is where the headaches begin.

g1smd

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 9:46 pm on Feb 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

There's very little to HTML:
* the stuff in the <head> such as title and meta description and the links to CSS and JS files, and
* the stuff in the <body> such as headings, paragraphs, lists, tables, forms, links to show images, and links to click on to visit another page.

damon_cool

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 8:37 am on Feb 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

Artisteer is a great product for the price.

not2easy

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 11:55 am on Feb 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

Artisteer is a great product for the price, I use it to build my own WP themes, but tried it once for a plain html site and it is not nearly so useful for that purpose. It hands you a template and if you don't know html and css you will not be able to build out a site very easily. I prefer Notepad++ for Windows and BBEdit for MAC If I did not know any html/css and using Windows, I would use free PSPad and spend 15 minutes a day on W3Schools dot com.

cmendla

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 1:14 pm on Mar 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

I found an app for joomla that allows you to import old sites into joomla articles. THat has saved a LOT of time migrating sites from frontpage or other platforms. However, I still need to do a LOT of tweaking with a site.

You might be able to find similar apps for other platforms.

ronnyskog

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 10:50 am on Apr 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

Dreamviewer is the nr.1 professional tool (with a professional price tag).

Kompozer is a very popular free basic HTML editor.

My personal favorite is WebBuilder 8, a very good and affordable editor:

[wysiwygwebbuilder.com...]

driller41

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 1:22 pm on Apr 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

I use Aristeer and XSitePro, I prefer XsitePro and can recommend it as a good frontpage replacement.

bunltd

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Msg#: 4415864 posted 3:56 pm on Apr 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Dreamweaver, but with doing so many sites in WordPress these days, I find I don't use it the same as I used to. In a lot of cases a text editor works fine for small tweaks, I'll even use the built-in editor in Transmit for quick things. (I learned html from scratch using Notepad. I still miss Homesite)

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