J_RaD
msg:4201677 | 3:38 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
and if goog keeps self destructing next headline we'll see is bing is now #1
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cien
msg:4201679 | 3:42 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Good news. I'm pulling for Bing. Hopefully we get Google to adjust their attitude a bit which stinks lately.
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J_RaD
msg:4201699 | 4:14 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I have a feeling it will only get worse as such news keeps happening and they keep getting freaked out.
Gota wonder if MS really knew if they put up some rival that was just GOOD, that it would cause goog to get so freaked out they would self destruct.
goog is its own worst enemy right now, all MS and yahoo have to do is just be steady and focused and everything else will pretty much fall into place.
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drall
msg:4201702 | 4:17 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Congrats Microsoft! Keep up the great work.
I would have never thought I would be saying this back in 2002.
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blend27
msg:4201713 | 4:44 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| Gota wonder if MS really knew if they put up some rival that was just GOOD, that it would cause goog to get so freaked out they would self destruct. |
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All MS has to do is continue those TV ADS where people speak random words, cause that is exactly what's seen IN GORGs SERP(oh wait it's not SERP any more and/or any less).
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MrFewkes
msg:4201721 | 5:16 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
It would be great (if only for moral) if MS could get a bigger share - say 50/50 split ms/goofle.
Im not sure though - but it would probably a false sense of security.
I hope - that ms simply treat us with a little more respect than goofle.
If they do - then the rest will follow.
Will this happen? hmmmmm - Im in two minds.
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aleksl
msg:4201725 | 5:21 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Agree with everyone. Those jumpy results and a suggestion box that suggests wrong more than 50% of the cases are ANNOYING.
| I hope - that ms simply treat us with a little more respect than goofle. |
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nope, not gonna happen.
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J_RaD
msg:4201726 | 5:22 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
All MS has to do is continue those TV ADS where people speak random words, cause that is exactly what's seen IN GORGs SERP(oh wait it's not SERP any more and/or any less).
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oh yea MS could reallllllly have some fun with what googs SERPS look like now.
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J_RaD
msg:4201727 | 5:23 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
pick up the phone and call an adcenter rep and see if you get treated with respect. The answer is YES.
Pick up the phone and call goog adwords dept... *hehehe*
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jecasc
msg:4201731 | 5:54 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
After google introduced this instant thingy I changed my host files so if I accidently type in google.com I am redirected to bing.
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ponyboy96
msg:4201747 | 6:29 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Like some have posted, after this Google instant mess, I'm sure the Bing share just grew a bit more.
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maximillianos
msg:4201767 | 7:19 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
pick up the phone and call an adcenter rep and see if you get treated with respect. The answer is YES.
Pick up the phone and call goog adwords dept... *hehehe*
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It is because the adcenter reps have nothing to do since they have no advertisers in their network. ;-)
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incrediBILL
msg:4201771 | 7:27 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Looks to me now that Bing and Yahoo! are basically the same results that Bing has a 27% share of the US market for all search results which is a serious improvement.
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J_RaD
msg:4201779 | 7:42 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
It is because the adcenter reps have nothing to do since they have no advertisers in their network. ;-)
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fine with me! keeps my cpc low :-D
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Sgt_Kickaxe
msg:4201781 | 7:44 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I dislike change for the sake of change and that's what Mayday felt like. Since then I've been pulling for a 50/50 split between Google and Bingahoo.
Bing's results are steadily improving and google's awesome results have been steadily self imploding with weirdness, I'm not surprised Bing is gaining ground.
Google's algo is supposed to know what I want be before I want it afterall, you think it would have said HECK NO to mayday...
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Hugene
msg:4201806 | 8:55 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Competition is always good, except when it comes from M$. Hopefully they will be responsible net citizens and we wont see a repeat of NS vs IE. But any competition to the big G is good right now.
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ddogg
msg:4201822 | 9:31 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I really hate Google Instant, I mean why would anyone think that was a good idea? So annoying, should drive people to bing.
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koan
msg:4201829 | 10:01 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| Competition is always good, except when it comes from M$. |
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Gotta agree with that one. Google's worse faults are still better than Microsoft's best qualities once they have a monopoly in a market.
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MrFewkes
msg:4201833 | 10:13 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
"It is because the adcenter reps have nothing to do since they have no advertisers in their network. ;-) "
"fine with me! keeps my cpc low :-D"
Especially low since you dont get any clicks either ! ;)
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aleksl
msg:4201841 | 10:53 pm on Sep 14, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I don't know about adwords, but I get emails from Adsense reps all the time suggesting how and where we can improve.
We still make ways less with adsense (one business) then we spend on adwords (the other business).. but at least it is something.
And with microsoft...you can't trust microsoft at all, because microsoft never had a single product that they didn't steal or copy and then used their political and market powers to muscle out competitors.
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BillyS
msg:4201879 | 12:22 am on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Are the people on this thread even reading the article? Bing took market share from Yahoo, not Google. All you Google bashers need to read the article.
| Nielsen reported a similar number, with a 65.1 percent share for Google. That’s up 0.9 percent month over month and 0.5 percent for year over year. |
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In fact, there seems to even be some controversy around the Bing results:
| That contrasts with the July report from comScore (SCOR), which shows that Bing had an 11 percent share and Yahoo (YHOO) had a 17.1 percent share. |
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m0thman
msg:4201931 | 1:52 am on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| and if goog keeps self destructing next headline we'll see is bing is now #1 |
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Dream on, more chance of Apple's IOS coming out top over Android.. oh yeah, not gonna happen either.
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m0thman
msg:4201933 | 1:55 am on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| I really hate Google Instant, I mean why would anyone think that was a good idea? So annoying, should drive people to bing. |
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There some religious groups living in America that don't go for electricity either. I'm sure Bing's working out very well for them too. :::cough::: spluttter:::: bit of British derision for you!
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Ryan_Lash
msg:4201963 | 3:37 am on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
um, is that due to bing officially powering yahoo's results last month?
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drall
msg:4201974 | 4:34 am on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Hi Ryan, no they cleared that out. That's just straightup Bing.com.
All this bickering, I would think EVERY webmaster would embrace another source of free traffic.
I dont care if Bing gains traffic by giving away free coffee mugs and pens!
Traffic is traffic and I will embrace every possible source of free traffic that is growing. Google, Bing, FB..
And for all those talking about MS being a monopoly, well I had my business put out of business by MS in the late 90's. Crushed like a grape! I had to let go of employees and destroy families as a result of it.
Let me tell ya first hand, Google isnt any different.
So lets refocus the conversation back to what it should be about.
Hey! Another free traffic source is growing!
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engine
msg:4202041 | 8:52 am on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I'd like to see more of a balance between the search engine traffic. I've seen Google's 'power' in search destroy businesses when they drop out of the SERPs. It happened because there was no alternative. If there was a 50/50 split, or 33/33/33 split, it'd be much better for the business.
However, between the search engines, i'd be surprised if there was any more general search traffic to be gained. It's about share of search.
You search on B, G, or Y, that's it.
The additional traffic has to come from new markets, or from new ways, such as FB or Twitter. These people are not searching, so would never have come from B,G or Y in the first place.
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Vamm
msg:4202080 | 10:48 am on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Even though Bing took traffic share from Yahoo, that is still good because the thing is about a rival to Google. It better be one strong rival than two weak rivals.
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blend27
msg:4202106 | 12:23 pm on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| Are the people on this thread even reading the article |
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It does not really matter, at least for our team and people we know. No Trust for GOGR any more, and we are actively promoting that Idea every chance we get.
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BillyS
msg:4202177 | 2:37 pm on Sep 15, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| Are the people on this thread even reading the article |
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It does not really matter, at least for our team and people we know. No Trust for GOGR any more, and we are actively promoting that Idea every chance we get. |
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Okay, so you're saying we're going to ignore the fact that Google increased market share and bash them because we don't like Google. Did I get that right? I just want to make sure I understand the quality of your posts...
Many times posts like this stem from ranking problems in Google. We all have limited resources, so we need to make a choice on how to use them.
We're totally white hat but had trouble ranking on Google too. I didn't spend a lot of time bashing Google, instead I tried to figure out what Google was seeing that I didn't see.
It took some time, but in the end we began to rank in a fair manner. It does happen, big business does work with the little guys too.
In fact, if I had to rank my experience with each search engine, I'd say that Google and Yahoo were very responsive, while Bing was nearly impossible to work with.
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