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Out sourcing php work.
adamnichols45




msg:4101859
 1:09 pm on Mar 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

Im just looking for some figures please on what you have paid for a competent php programmer from india and the likes.

$5 - $10 - $15 more?

money is paid direct etc

 

adamnichols45




msg:4101913
 4:47 pm on Mar 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

common guys someone here has paid for work to be out sourced surley.

rocknbil




msg:4101994
 8:44 pm on Mar 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

$5 - $10 - $15 more?


LOL . . . the above and the word "competent" have no business being in the same thought. Unless you mean "per hour." If you think that should be implied, guess again. I have seen RFP's exactly like this, as flat rates.

I compete against "outsourced programmers" and not all of them are from India or Pakistan. I think those names come up because the economies in those countries are very poor, and the ones in the tech industry are willing to work very hard for very little, giving them a greater exposure in the work force. It's not uncommon for super low pricing to be paid to a U.S. programmer, because many programmers respond by thinking this is their only way to "stay in the game."

But the bottom line, exploitation is still exploitation, no matter where you're from. I see it every day, five page web sites for $100, customized CMS's for $50, writers providing 500 word articles for $10, or . . . . .004 USD per word. That is not a typo or exaggeration.

Conversely, a large part of **my** work is cleaning up after some of these providers who have responded to the resounding calls of exploitation. The bottom line, in any language, any culture, is still "you get what you pay for." And quite often, in really bad cases, you pay for what you get . . .

So . . . expect at least $10 per hour for a "competent" coder, but that ten bucks is no guarantee that they will actually be "competent." You still have to do your homework.

adamnichols45




msg:4102033
 9:59 pm on Mar 21, 2010 (gmt 0)

There will always be a need for the indian programmers I guess and I imagine it is only a good thing well for me anyhow.

It means I can work on other parts of my business. I am beginning a new progect and I know for a fact I would be quoted around the 7-10k mark ($) for the project.

from speaking to 1 programmer he is very clued up and is asking all the right questions. He will do the work for around $700.

I simply wouldnt undertake this project if it was not for the cheaper labour as it is a "free" to use part of the site. If it was costing 7-10k then we would not even think to start it.

lammert




msg:4102589
 8:12 pm on Mar 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

You should be aware of the fact that that programmer can, and probably will sell the same work for $700 to other bidders, thereby creating competitor sites. After some sales he will have generated a decent income, but you will have a worthless site.

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