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Lightbeing




msg:3393483
 9:52 am on Jul 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi folks,

Just found this interesting looking forum and so here's my first post.

I was wondering what dimensions folk generally design a website to work on now that screen sizes and resolution are going ever upwards. Are you still working with a resolution of 800x600 or are you now looking towards 1024x768 as the minimum size?

Obviously if the site is variable width then it's not so much of an issue (except perhaps the minimum width).

Dan

 

Marshall




msg:3393568
 11:57 am on Jul 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Lightbeing,

First, let me welcome you to WebmasterWorld. Be happy to know you picked a topic that has seen a lot of debate.

There are many variables to consider when trying to figure out what width to make your site. And while I may not be able to give you a specific answer since it is such a subjective quetion, I can give you things to think about.

First, many will argue fixed vs. fluid, but that can probably be answered by "what will the page look like stretched 1200px wide or wider. Is there enough content or will there be this lond navigaiton bay on the left with a very long line of text in the content section (assuming a two column layout). In short, will it look stupid, and will it have a negative effect on the design.

Second, will the design allow me to increase the font size on a high resolution display. Fixed or fluid, it is best ot do fonts in "em" or "%" not only for screen resolution, but also accessibility.

Third, and I think very important: do people really use the full width of their screen to view a page. Right now, I have this screen one set at 1280x800, but I almost never view a page full width as I have several windows open at once and they're usualy about 900px wide, more or less. This leads to the second issue of how small to make the page.

If you do a fixed minimum width, say greater than 1000px, then someone like me will have to deal with left/right scroll bar, something I find very annoying. So as far as fixed width, my opinion is no greater than 800px, but remember, that is my opinion. And as far as setting a minimum width, not all browsers support that. You may have to use a clear .gif image to prevent the page from being pushed too small.

One thing to consider is what to the most popular sites do. You may find the best thing to be a fixed width that floats center which prevents a large gap on the right and makes the page look balanced. Of course, a nice background image or color becomes important then.

So, how do you like that - a question and no answer ;). Bottom line, think about what your visitors will be comfortable with and whether or not the design is appropriate to be stretched v e r y w i d e or if people will constintly have to scroll left/right. Those are the two factors I weigh the most.

Marshall

hawkerz




msg:3393630
 1:20 pm on Jul 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Very well said, Marshall.

There was a time when I was new to HTML that I would use %'s and the like. I have found over the years, however, that the optimal page size for me has been around 760px wide, placed in the center of the page with a 0px topmargin. I almost without fail use a 760px wide jpg image as the top of the page (although this is more a personal trademark than anything).

Marshall




msg:3393660
 1:48 pm on Jul 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

hawkerz,

Thank you. In truth, my pet peeve is the horizontal scroll bar (and small print). If I have to use it on any setting over 800px, it's not worth my time. However, I shoulld add, if fixed widths over 800px are necessary, at least make the right column less important insofar as content. Just my 2 cents. Though I have one site that is 3 column and fluid, the right column is basically a "What's New" section with links to the RSS, Printer Friendly Version and the like. Once a person sees it on one page, they knows it's there and can ignore it on others should the horizontal scroll bar appear.

Marshall

[edited by: Marshall at 1:49 pm (utc) on July 13, 2007]

ceestand




msg:3393671
 1:56 pm on Jul 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

I usually use a fixed width of 770px and let the page content determine the height. Users at 800x600 are likely used to viewing with their browsers at full size and users at greater resolutions often adjust to close to that width as well.

I believe that most users despise scrolling side-to-side. Scrolling down is expected, but if they become irritated scrolling down too much, the page content should have probably been broken up anyway.

rocknbil




msg:3394781
 9:06 pm on Jul 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Pretty happy in most modern browsers and most monitors with variable width, min-width set to 600px, max-width set to 1020px, center floating. Not real happy with what goes down in IE 6 or IE for Mac (saaay WHAAAAAAAAT? :-) )

etgsgroup




msg:3395101
 2:17 pm on Jul 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have many visitor come to my site.

many people they use 1024x768.

dpd1




msg:3397597
 12:14 am on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've been using a fixed 760 pix width centered, with the exception being new window images going up to 800-900 width. When I was getting ready to redo a site, I started a poll on a list of 600 people for the site... I think it was about 65% that used a 17", and the rest were broken down about equal numbers. I think some people overestimate how many people are using the large screens.

rocknbil




msg:3398877
 10:17 am on Jul 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Or underestimate.You would be wise to check your actual statistics. Last 30 days on one of our sites in Analytics:


1024x768 50.31%
1280x800 11.41%
1280x1024 10.59%
800x600 10.57%
1440x900 4.44%
1152x864 3.32%
1280x768 2.38%
1680x1050 2.19%
1152x720 0.67%
1920x1200 0.52%

dpd1




msg:3399271
 6:00 pm on Jul 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

So looks like the majority are probably 19". I have an older crowd in my group.... maybe that accounts for it. Still, I personally wouldn't design wider than 800 pix I don't think.

Gibble




msg:3399311
 6:44 pm on Jul 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

I go with a fluid layout whenever possible. I make sure it looks good at 800w.

On computers I use the resolution is always set to the max my LCD and video card can handle, at work that's 1280w, at home my desktop is 1600w on both LCDs, and the laptop is some odd number + the second LCD (when possible) set to the closest resolution to the laptop I can find.

But having said that, I also throw my taskbar on the side of my screen, so I don't get the full resolution even when maximized.

In short, I want my sites to look good with any width over ~760.

The few people that still resort to a 640x480 screen can scroll horizontally. They're probably used to doing that already anyhow.

old_expat




msg:3401755
 7:49 am on Jul 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

"800x600 10.57% "

Wow, only that small a percentage under 1024.

rocknbill, if you don't mind telling, what is your demographic?

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