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MSFT to buy YHOO for $50 Billion?
ny Post...
walkman



 
Msg#: 3330614 posted 12:19 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

[biz.yahoo.com...]

"The approach follows an offer Microsoft made to buy Yahoo a few months ago, the Post reported, but Yahoo spurned the advances. The Post said Wall Street sources put a roughly $50 billion price tag on Yahoo."

 

Marcia

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 12:50 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Here's the original story that's being quoted all over:

New York Post story [nypost.com]

I grew up in New York, the Post is not a newspaper, it's a gossip rag.

BillyS

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 1:12 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Not sure if this is good for competition. Hopefully they don't destroy Yahoo! search.

mardomania

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 1:14 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

if this happens, I wonder if MSN will scrap project panama.

I'd think they would keep it. adcenter is awful.

flack47

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 1:29 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think if this happens, they will compare what they've got, keep what's good and scrap what's crap.
That means they'll keep Yahoo's search and ads service, and they'll keep Microsofts. . .operating system?

Pass the Dutchie

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 1:31 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

won't happen

foxfox

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 1:48 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

great news for google

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 2:00 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Wow, that's pretty ground breaking news. So, what will we end up with?

MSNHOO

So the space gets trimmed to two major players? Something doesn't feel right to me. This should be interesting. The Clash of the Titans.

ebound

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 2:15 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think it will happen this time. I think the sleeping giant has awakened.

vik_c

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 2:17 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

This is probably the only way Microsoft can be in the same league as Google in the Search business. A few years delay and it may be too late.

rarethings55

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 2:23 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I highly doubt this will happen. Not to mention I don't think Msoft can afford the 50B price tag. Yahoo still has some growth left in it. Getting bought out by microsoft would be downright silly. Msoft would then go about its standard practices therefore decreasing the value of the yahoo brand.

zomega42

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 2:27 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't understand how these things work, maybe someone can enlighten me. When they say there's a $50 billion price tag, that doesn't actually mean MS would have to fork over $50 billion, does it? They don't need to buy all the stock. Just some piece of it, but how much, or am I completely clueless?

walkman



 
Msg#: 3330614 posted 2:28 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

>> Not to mention I don't think Msoft can afford the 50B price tag

:) they have $30 Billion in CASH already, and if they decided to pay 100% cash for it (very unlikely), banks would be running over each other to lend it to them. If msft cannot afford them, no one can. If I was a Y! holder, I'd take a 20% premium and MS stock.

[edited by: walkman at 2:50 pm (utc) on May 4, 2007]

randle

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 2:49 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Nothing unites people like a common enemy so who knows.

Trax

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 3:02 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

yahoo is up 18%
those who don't believe it should short yahoo and make some nice cash ;)

rogerd

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 3:34 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Should this happen, I can see two scenarios in the search space:

1) A formidable competitor to Google emerges by combining market shares and implementing the best technology from each company.

2) The merger process causes the best people to leave, confusion level increases, everybody focuses on merger/political/job security issues and takes their eye off the ball; a year or two later, combined market share is lower than before, tech projects are behind schedule, and both search and ad technology lag farther behind Google.

Based on past experience, I'd bet on the second possibility.

[edited by: rogerd at 3:35 pm (utc) on May 4, 2007]

potentialgeek

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 3:35 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

YHOO is up, but MSFT is down. That tells a story in and of itself...

This looks like desperation by MSFT, which has been so slow in the past to make deals and be aggressive--in stark contrast to GOOG.

YHOO has struggled for years to compete with GOOG, and it's also been losing market share (search, at least), for years. It has also had its own problems or mistakes which contributed to this, including in the last number of months; point being, YHOO still hasn't shown signs it can get its act together.

The stock trading today reflects the idea that YHOO investors will be glad to see someone else have a go at turning the ship around, and it also shows MSFT investors aren't exactly thrilled, because they know about all the problems YHOO has had--they know it's a troubled property and a risky acquisition.

If I wanted a company to fix YHOO, I wouldn't choose MSFT. MSFT hasn't even been able to overtake YHOO in search, for crying out loud, so why should I be optimistic?! Sure they'd get more market share, at least at first, but bigger isn't necessarily better.

p/g

poster_boy

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 3:36 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

2) The merger process causes the best people to leave, confusion level increases, everybody focuses on merger/political/job security issues and takes their eye off the ball; a year or two later, combined market share is lower than before, tech projects are behind schedule, and both search and ad technology lag farther behind Google.

Bingo. (IMHO)

RichTC

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 3:39 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

lets just hope and prey if this does comes off that msn dump their own search product and adopt yahoos.

Just imagine if msn kept their own search and replaced Yahoos with their own version - Google would have 100% of the market to themselves!

Frankly i would us have the three in the market - the more the better.

Pass the Dutchie

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 3:42 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

IMO Yahoo is failing and revenue is going south. M$ have thier own serious issues with MSN Live to deal with so why take take one more problems. Two wrongs make a right? I don't think so. This does look like desperate measures on both Yahoo and M$.

synergy

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 3:57 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

A few years delay and it may be too late

I think those few years have already passed :)

syber

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:09 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think this combination is inevitable, otherwise Google walks away with all the marbles.

mister charlie

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:12 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

YHOO is up, but MSFT is down. That tells a story in and of itself...

That tells no story, other than what happens in all cases of acquisition. The acquiring company's stock price always dips on the announcement, while the acquired company always rises.

Calc Richmond

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:16 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Please let this happen if only to get rid of the Adcentre staff who are all completely below average especially their 'supremos' who are nothing more than glorified sales expletives.

kaz

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:18 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Can microsoft or yahoo compete against google on their own? I think the results of that have been conclusive. Can they compete better together, maybe - but I think that is a stretch.

From a management/strategic standpoint, if you really thought this deal was going to fly, would you pull your ppc partnership with the company you wanted to buy and then go thru a lot of effort to create your own? If it does go thru, then adcenter was a (big) mistake at the top.

martinibuster

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:20 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

This will be great news for Ask, as they can put out a Press Release to spin this as they're now the number three search engine, lol.

On a more serious note, could a combination of the two companies create something that is greater than to two or will it simply be joining the two and noting greater than the union come out of it?

What efficiencies are coming out of this?

How does this make them better?

How will this make them better able to compete?

[edited by: martinibuster at 4:29 pm (utc) on May 4, 2007]

handsome rob

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:28 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)


Please let this happen if only to get rid of the Adcentre staff who are all completely below average especially their 'supremos' who are nothing more than glorified sales expletives.

I couldn't disagree more. Granted my search marketing efforts on adcenter are the least aggressive of the top 3 engines where I run campaigns, but my dealings with their staff have always been very positive. In my experience when calling Yahoo Search Marketing, there is a very simple equation:

The number of different answers to a question or stories you receive from their staff is always greater than or equal to the number of times you pick up the phone. This number will go up if you are transferred from one rep to another during a call.

night707

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:37 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Two big time losers do not necessarily make a winner and Google will ball out large about this.

centime

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:49 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I hope they walk away from this,

I like having 3 big SE's, and they each have different character

I struggle to see this working out well

I think banks an financial folk are often unable to understand the complexities of tech companies, insisting on viewing them like any other tradtional business, it happens over, and over again

stef25

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Msg#: 3330614 posted 4:55 pm on May 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

sounds like an april fools joke, i cant believe this is seriously being considered. i thought adobe buying macromedia was "big", damn

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