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The web is all about capitalizing on other people's hard work.
restless




msg:3224525
 4:45 am on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Biggest example of this is Google, they've become millionares off all the webmasters out there, without the webmasters they are nothing.

Websites become millionares off users contributed content, eg Youtube.

Sounds unfair when you think about it, that these companies have become very wealthy all because of free content they are given, whilst the contributors get a big fat zero (directly) .

 

Mforcer




msg:3224548
 5:38 am on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

These sites are doing well because they provide a service that internet users want. It is as simple as that.

The more users a site can attract, the more active users a site can attract, the more advertisers etc are willing to spend at that site.

Green_Grass




msg:3224632
 9:32 am on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

This is true in many walks of life and business in general. This is life. I am sure you know the Law of the Jungle...

LifeinAsia




msg:3225049
 4:45 pm on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Sounds unfair when you think about it, that these companies have become very wealthy all because of free content they are given

Match that against all the free traffic that webmasters get when their sites are indexed in Google. Are they paying for Google's server farms, Google's bandwidth, Google's employees, or any of the other costs associated with running Google as a business? No.

If you want to protest, I suggest you put a NOCACHE meta tag on your site(s) and prevent Google from "using" you.

handsome rob




msg:3225069
 4:57 pm on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

The same could be said about the classified section of every newspaper in existence, every apartment guide outside a supermarket, etc.

spaceylacie




msg:3225447
 10:16 pm on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

They are called "users" for a reason. They use. They use my web site, they use the features I paid a programmer to create, they use up my bandwidth, they use up my available disc space, they use my freebies (sometimes for profit), they use up my time... I could go on. And in return I get a steady pay check so I can afford to live while I am busy taking care of their needs. What part isn't fair?

appi2




msg:3225520
 11:36 pm on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Welcome to 2.0 ;)
Journalists are moaning, photographers and many others.
Seem to remember seing newscorp or some media monster sacking loads to concentrate on the web.

Understand where your coming from and do slightly agree.

BUt then ...sit back and see the genious of it. Other people doing your work, just for thier little bit of fame.


Match that against all the free traffic that webmasters get when their sites are indexed in Google. Are they paying for Google's server farms, Google's bandwidth, Google's employees, or any of the other costs associated with running Google as a business? No.

When times are good we sing this song. When times are bad... its AdWords time.
83709373823 results for your query... heres the top ten. The rest are crying.


They are called "users" for a reason. They use. They use my web site, they use the features I paid a programmer to create, they use up my bandwidth, they use up my available disc space, they use my freebies (sometimes for profit), they use up my time... I could go on. And in return I get a steady pay check so I can afford to live while I am busy taking care of their needs. What part isn't fair?

c'mon... admit it... mwhhaaa ha ha... Suckers make me money for doing bugger all.

rocknbil




msg:3225598
 1:54 am on Jan 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

The question you might need to ask is how much benefit or profit are YOU turning on other peoples' hard work?

ISeeThreadPeople




msg:3225948
 2:37 pm on Jan 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

No, In my opinion, a lot of hard work and guts went into the creation of Google and Youtube.
Thousands of hours of burning the midnight oil to create accurate search and the ability to upload video extremely easily for free, without the users having to worry about servers, bandwidth or programming.

They're not ripping anyone off , that kid that wants to post his bands latest homemade music video can start his own site, pay for the hosting,bandwidth and set up the video streaming himself if he feels exploited. :)

karmov




msg:3226043
 3:57 pm on Jan 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

I tend to disagree with that view.

Is Google a better search engine because it indexes my content? Yep. Am I getting my fair cut because they send me traffic and I am able to monetize it? You betcha.

All the people who are getting "nothing" are simply missing the boat. Each and every one of these services offers a unique opportunity for its users to monetize their content. If you feel like you're being taken advantage of, you just need to alter your perspective and things will start to go your way.

bartainer




msg:3226121
 5:37 pm on Jan 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Without Google or Yahoo (or other search engines) "this" internet would be non-existing.

Life without Google or Yahoo:

In that world internet traffic would be minuscule! After I quickly read your ad while sitting on the john, your ad would be at the bottom of my bird cage!

An advertisrs is NOT going to place an ad on your site without traffic or relevant content. Google and Yahoo bring you "that" traffic by indexing your site. It's up to you to maximize your site by placing relevant key phrases and Meta tags. Furthermore, you must make your site user friendly. Take advantage and place proper alt tags etc.

Good luck.

restless




msg:3226680
 12:13 pm on Jan 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

"They're not ripping anyone off , that kid that wants to post his bands latest homemade music video can start his own site, pay for the hosting,bandwidth and set up the video streaming himself if he feels exploited. :)"

Exactly where Web 2.0 is going with all the new web applications making it easy for anyone to setup their own community.

Yes I agree google gives back by giving you traffic but you have to work at it and are not guaranteed anything.

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