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I need to edit .mov movie, add play button convert to .swf on Mac
Lorel




msg:4134057
 2:45 pm on May 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have a .mov video that needs the first few frames taken out (which are black), a play button added and then convert the .mov to a .swf file so it will play in all browsers.

I'm having to use several programs to do this and the end result is a distorted and pixelated movie.

I"m working from a Mac so bought Quicktime Pro to edit the movie (take out the first few all black frames). That works fine.

I don't have Flash so made the transparent button in Fireworks graphics program and added that to the first frame in the edited movie via copy paste (the movie doesn't start until the button is clicked). Once I added the button then the quality of the degraded but I kept going anyway to see if this would work.

However I can't export the movie as .swf in Quicktime so saved it as .mov and loaded another program that opens .mov files and converts them to .swf (Video2swf). However the movie then came out all pixelated and distorted.

Can someone tell me

1. what I'm doing wrong?

or

2. Is there a better program for the Mac that can handle all these steps.

 

travelin cat




msg:4134069
 3:03 pm on May 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

Video2swf is one of your problems, we never could get quality output from it.

Take a look at Adobe Premiere [adobe.com...] it should do everything you need.

A less expensive, but not as robust alternative is iMovie [apple.com...]

Lorel




msg:4134142
 5:41 pm on May 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

Sorry but I don't understand how spending $799 for Adobe Premier Pro is "less expensive" than somethig that comes free on all Macs (iMovie). Did I missunderstand something? There has to be a better alternative.

I don't make movies (which appears to be the focus of Adobe Premier Pro). I just want to edit small homemade movies that others send to me so I can put it on their website.

I've downloaded several different video programs so far but none of them do everything I need, which is to make minor edits, add a play button on the front and then convert to .swf.

PS. I haven't had any problems with Video2swf. But I haven't used it for editing until now either. Maybe it degrades after editing.

Demaestro




msg:4134143
 5:47 pm on May 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

Sorry but I don't understand how spending $799 for Adobe Premier Pro is "less expensive" than somethig that comes free on all Macs (iMovie). Did I missunderstand something? There has to be a better alternative.


so far but none of them do everything I need


Well it isn't "less expensive" then free. But it does do everything you need.

If this is something you are doing for clients then maybe a small increase in the fee you charge for doing these conversions for your clients would be enough to offset the cost of buying software that does everything you need.... and does it really well BTW.

travelin cat




msg:4134367
 11:53 pm on May 17, 2010 (gmt 0)

Lorel, you misread my statement. I said a less expensive alternative to Premiere was imovie.

You may want to take a look at Final Cut Express: [store.apple.com...]

Lorel




msg:4137316
 1:24 pm on May 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

I already tried imovie and it wasn't suitable for some reason - don't remember now because I've tried so many video converters but it probably didn't convert to .swf like a lot of other apple products.

I finally found one that does everything I need at a reasonable price - Video to Flash Converter. There are lots of video converters but very few that include a player and convert to .swf. It's owned by a company in China and I don't like buying unAmerian. But Hey! It's the best I've found yet.

thecoalman




msg:4137510
 5:04 am on May 24, 2010 (gmt 0)


However I can't export the movie as .swf in Quicktime so saved it as .mov...


You have to be careful during this, .mov is a container file like .avi. It can contain many types of video, it's the codec used that determines what it really is. You want to be sure you are using the same codec with the same video properties as your input file.

Each time you convert a video you will have loss in quality. Each conversion is a destructive process, working with high quality video like DV that has a high bitrate is negligible but when you're working with highly compressed video it can have a substantial effect.

Changes to the content of frames, codec, bitrate and frame size all require re-encoding however where edits are are concerned if the properties of your output video are the same as the input you can minimize the re-encoding to where the edits were made.

For example if you're working with MPEG and you made a cut and added a few frames to the start like you have done the better editors are going to only encode the first few frames and copy the rest of the video into a new file. If you made a cut and then added a transition they will only re-encode where the edit was made. If you change the bitrate the entire video will get re-encoded.

Lorel




msg:4137656
 1:02 pm on May 24, 2010 (gmt 0)

@Travelin Cat .
You may want to take a look at Final Cut Express


Like I said, I need a program that converts to .swf.

@coalman. Thanks for explaining what might degrade quality when converting programs. So far I'm only cutting out a few seconds at the beginning of the movie and quality doesn't seem to have degraded with this program on the videos I've tried.

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