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Msg#: 3622543 posted 10:54 am on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

Adobe Systems on Wednesday plans to release Adobe Media Player (AMP), a free download for playing Flash-based Web videos on Macs or PCs.

Written with Adobe's AIR, AMP is a hybrid online/offline application that lets people subscribe to different video Webcasts. Adobe has signed on some initial partners including CBS, PBS, MTV Networks, Universal Music Group, CondeNet, and Scripps Networks.

Adobe Media Player 1.0 For Mac or PC [news.com]

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danielro

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 3:30 pm on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

Installed, watched, 70% satisfied.
Looks like yet another online TV platform similar to Joost and others.
I wonder if a bigger brand like Adobe can land even more deals with TV networks making this application richer, as opposed to Joost.

dakuma

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 11:17 pm on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

I've used Joost for a couple of months and really enjoyed it, when it ran smooth.

AMP seems to run alot smoother and I prefer the UI to that of Joost as well. And look! TED talks! Sweet!

There is an odd graphic in the center of the screen though... looks like a right triangle.. but I'm sure someone somewhere will start a "all seeing eye" consiracy ;)

dakuma

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 1:08 am on Apr 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

Another thing I do like about AMP is because it's an Adobe product they have some pretty useful shows like Layers TV, a pretty cool tips/tricks show covering the Creative Suite. Shows are about 20mins and the video is pretty good quality. Need new skills? Check it out :)

lexipixel

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 4:58 am on Apr 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

Installed it... very nice!

(Going into "wanting it all mode")... I did have one problem on the install. I was using FireFox and didn't have Flash 9 installed. When I tried to DL the media payer it told me I needed to install Flash 9, and close FireFox... (Te gernal pubic would quit at this point saying: How do I DL something from the web with my browser closed?)... Anyway, I updated Flash, closed and reopened the Media Player DL and all is well in laptop based video land.

Sidenote: didn't Yahoo announce "AMP" as their new ad program yesterday? (... nevermind -- they decided to become Adsense publishers today).. What other business can you have the landscape see quantum shifts 203 times in any given 24 hour period?....:) Either way, too many things call "AMP"... Adobe will needed a better name to market it.

uberfu

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 5:35 pm on Apr 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

@lexipixel:

That's why Adobe actually calls it Adobe Media Player and not AMP_ Besides who knows what Yahoo is doing_ I don't think they even know what they're doing_

Reminds me of 2 people playing chase in a crowd of on-lookers and the one being chased [Yahoo] is stopping to have quick 15 second conversations with the on-looksers [Google etc..] while trying to not let the chaser [Microsoft] catchup_

lexipixel

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 7:07 pm on Apr 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

and now, after a brief intermission from the Search Engine Advertising Soap Opera... Back to the Media Player...

I will say that Adobe Media Player is "Beautiful", and "Elegant", (words I usually reserve). It is very nicely designed in terms of layout, color scheme -- a total package in form and function.

...and I hate when I can't find anything bad to say about newly released v1.0 software! (Very) Well done Adobe!

GrendelKhan TSU

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 5:41 am on Apr 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

interesting is ADOBE implementation of the advertising/monetization issue for its TV shows.

you can't skip past the occasional commercial blocks. but you can skip with the blocks between commercials Not a bad plan actual for the long episodes. Haven't seen that before. Joost has got some troubles.

it'd be great if one day they'll add avi, mov etc support (instead of just flv and fl4). Silly that you can't play SWF on it though. +_+

And built on AIR it seems. so much potential with AIR and now with media player.
POSIT: Adobe might be the only one who can really conquer unified platform standards:

Desktop, Mobile, Web >> sync via AIR/Flash. Flash widgets.

[edited by: GrendelKhan_TSU at 5:52 am (utc) on April 11, 2008]

lexipixel

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 8:26 am on Apr 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Adobe might be the only one who can really conquer unified platform standards

With 8.5" x 11" paper documents being replaced by .PDFs, and the huge market penetration of .SWF & .FLV for video and animation, plus all the standard HTML / web stuff like PhotoShop, DW, etc.., Adobe not only rules, but are guaranteed a royalty from anyone who even tries to step on their toes.

I have a full 47 minute episode of CSI: running on my laptop on a wireless connection --- I kicked it up to full screen mode -- very clear, clean, no stuttering while buffering -- sure it's got commercials, (and no "fast forward" button), but it's FREE. I can pause it like a DVD disc when I need to make a sandwich... Life is good.

it'd be great if one day they'll add avi, mov etc support (instead of just flv and fl4). Silly that you can't play SWF on it though. +_+

If you check the "Personal Videos" feature, you'll see you can save various formats of .MP4, .3Gp, and .MOV files and the Adobe Media Player will let you view them. Since this is v.1, I expect it will eventually handle many other formats -- if there are any left once Adobe owns all video media... :)

lexipixel

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 8:31 am on Apr 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

you can't skip past the occasional commercial blocks. but you can skip with the blocks between commercials Not a bad plan actual for the long episodes. Haven't seen that before.
- GrendelKhan TSU

I just browsed the help pages at Adobe... if the media file is downloaded (not streamed), you can hold down the LEFT ARROW or RIGHT ARROW keys to jump back or forth 5 minutes in a video...

On the Television v. Media player battlefront, I'll have to say, t.v. wins since you don't have to RTFM to watch t.v.

thecoalman

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 12:38 am on Apr 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

As far as the player goes they should have released something like this years ago.

-- if there are any left once Adobe owns all video media...

Doubtful, they would need to get the hardware manufacturers onboard and I really don't see them using a proprietary format from Adobe. It wouldn't be a good thing if it came to that, I have a huge selection of software available to me from free on up. I certainly would hate to see that come to an end because of the AI equivalent for video whether its source video or delivery formats.

lexipixel

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 2:54 pm on Apr 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

That's why Adobe actually calls it Adobe Media Player and not AMP
-uberfu

On the Adobe site, they do refer to it as "AMP"... definitely needs branding / naming help.

Ok.. so now I've had a few days to play around with "AMP".

...a few things I don't like:

1. If you are streaming an episode of Survivor or CSI and want to look at the CATALOG (or "channel surf" in t.v. lingo), or fall asleep midway through a show and want to go back, you are stuck watching the streamed episode from the beginning again -- no way to jump into the middle. I suspect this is a problem with any stream, but it would be nice if player could remember the last 1, few, 10 or more shows you've been watching and let you "resume". (Maybe it can, but AFAIK it can't and I really don't like having to RTFM to watch t.v.).

2. The "skin" although clean, elegant, and beautiful, is too dark on one of my laptops making it very hard to distinguish the controls from, the background, (e.g.- I have to guess and click where the actual search box is)...

3. It seems to have (3) sizes: normal, minimized and full screen... this makes it hard to slide the window down to a smaller size so I can reply to an email or do a quick web search while a show is running. Additionally, you can't slide the middle dividers to rezize the various areas of the player within the overall player interface, (e.g.- make the "catalog area bigger or smaller or increase the size the of thumbnails or show descriptions).

4. "Help" opens a web browser... it would be nice if context sensitive help opened a small window and "helped me" with the area of the player I was using at the time... my attention span is short when I am engrossed in a "t.v. show"... by the time I read through the HTML based help and close the browser, I forget why I needed help and.

blue2blue

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 8:36 pm on Apr 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

It seems the bar for player feature sets and usability has already been set considerably higher.

GrendelKhan TSU

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Msg#: 3622543 posted 1:27 am on Apr 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

..a few things I don't like:

1. If you are streaming an episode of Survivor or CSI and want to look at the CATALOG (or "channel surf" in t.v. lingo), or fall asleep midway through a show and want to go back, you are stuck watching the streamed episode from the beginning again -- no way to jump into the middle. I suspect this is a problem with any stream, but it would be nice if player could remember the last 1, few, 10 or more shows you've been watching and let you "resume". (Maybe it can, but AFAIK it can't and I really don't like having to RTFM to watch t.v.).

2. The "skin" although clean, elegant, and beautiful, is too dark on one of my laptops making it very hard to distinguish the controls from, the background, (e.g.- I have to guess and click where the actual search box is)...

3. It seems to have (3) sizes: normal, minimized and full screen... this makes it hard to slide the window down to a smaller size so I can reply to an email or do a quick web search while a show is running. Additionally, you can't slide the middle dividers to rezize the various areas of the player within the overall player interface, (e.g.- make the "catalog area bigger or smaller or increase the size the of thumbnails or show descriptions).

4. "Help" opens a web browser... it would be nice if context sensitive help opened a small window and "helped me" with the area of the player I was using at the time... my attention span is short when I am engrossed in a "t.v. show"... by the time I read through the HTML based help and close the browser, I forget why I needed help and.

great comments. agree totally.

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