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 11:46 pm on Oct 27, 2013 (gmt 0)

Anyone know who or what Zylon Internet a/o Outside Heaven is? I'm suddenly seeing the 46.136 sector getting distributed in /24 segments to what looks like the entire African continent-- and it certainly isn't because AfriNIC has run out of room and needs to scramble for sublets!

The mother range seems to live in the Netherlands.* I don't think I've ever personally met them, but better safe than sorry.

* "voor al uw hosting activiteiten en domeinregistraties". If the Dutch language did not exist, someone would have invented it.



 8:10 pm on Oct 28, 2013 (gmt 0)

Rather odd!

From an ixquick search, zylon[.]org[.]uk is in Dutch; ixquick proxy claims it redirects to another site to which it ofers a URL - the exact site I originally wanted but which I'm willing to bet is the .net site with a disguised browser URL - I use linux so am less concerned about taking chances. :)

Just noticed that ONLY the domain name appears in the browser for ANY page, so the site is framed.

From the banner and from page content, zylon is a server farm...

"Of het nu gaat om webhosting, dedicated servers, colocatie of het leveren van bandbreedte diensten, Zylon is de geschikte partij voor uw bedrijf."

...Even I can read that! :)

bandbreedte is a link to a page with the English header "Connectivity", but what the hell.

From the outsideheaven[.]com site...

"OutsideHeaven is a Netherlands-based ISP, focused on providing a full range of enterprise solutions."

So, whatever else, thanks for bringing this to our attention: the /16 is now blocked.

The next /16 is (coincidentally?) Amazon. One wonders.

Total zylon as of now (all blocked)... - - -


 10:52 pm on Nov 5, 2013 (gmt 0)

:: bump ::

Awright, never mind who zylon a/o OutsideHeaven is... Would anyone care to hazard a guess what they're using 46.136 for?

Currently it looks like this:

46.136.11 Andorra
46.136.12 Armenia
46.136.13 Austria
46.136.14 Azerbaijan
46.136.15 Bahrain

et cetera up to
46.136.83 Uzbekistan
46.136.84 Yemen
46.136.85 ┼land Islands *
46.136.86 Albania
46.136.87 Andorra
and repeat.

At that point they seem to have used up RIPE, because .147 is Afghanistan. This time around, 255 only gets us to the Is and Js. I don't know where they've put the rest of the alphabet; have the impression I've seen it, but can't remember where. (Doesn't seem to be either of dstiles's finds, darn it.)

The only other place I can remember meeting this kind of alphabetic list is in some Qiniq ranges where they've divided their satellite coverage into /30 slivers to allocate them all at once. Huh.

* This detail is very funny if you know any Scandinavian language, because ┼ is the last letter of the 29-letter alphabet-- but if you use the Danish spelling it's "Aaland" putting it at the beginning.


 8:32 pm on Nov 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

I've seen a few cases of this. In one example a company is hosting IPs and rents them out to other countries in some way (as I see it), either to their own company's foreign branches or subsidiaries or to other companies.

I've also seen such blocks used as network navigation aids, possibly to facilitate international distribution of their larger IP ranges.

zylon's DNS entry proclaims they are NOC which, from webopedia, is...

"Short for network operations center, the physical space from which a typically large telecommunications network is managed, monitored and supervised. The NOC coordinates network troubles, provides problem management and router configuration services, manages network changes, allocates and manages domain names and IP addresses, monitors routers, switches, hubs and UPS systems that keep the network operating smoothly, manages the distribution and updating of software and coordinates with affiliated networks. NOCs also provide network accessibility to users connecting to the network from outside of the physical office space or campus."

Which explains zylon?

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