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Definitive Sources of IP Lists
incrediBILL




msg:4523129
 8:03 am on Nov 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Been looking for some definitive IP list sources maintained by the owner and not guessed at by 3rd parties by observation and a couple I came across are:

Microsoft's Azure Cloud Services provides an XML file:
[microsoft.com...]

Google provides a simple list in DNS from the command line:
nslookup -type=TXT _netblocks.google.com


Which returns:
_netblocks.google.com text = "v=spf1 ip4:216.239.32.0/19 ip4:64.233.160.0/19 ip4:66.249.80.0/20 ip4:72.14.192.0/18 ip4:209.85.128.0/17 ip4:66.102.0.0/20 ip4:74.125.0.0/16 ip4:64.18.0.0/20 ip4:207.126.144.0/20 ip4:173.194.0.0/16 ?all"


Anyone else got any direct IP list sources like these for Yahoo, Bing, etc.?

 

bigtoga




msg:4523181
 12:39 pm on Nov 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

That's a great list - thank you for sharing.

incrediBILL




msg:4523329
 7:29 pm on Nov 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Thought I'd add the IP assignments per country for those new to access control that don't know about these:

ftp://ftp.apnic.net/pub/apnic/stats/apnic/delegated-apnic-latest
ftp://ftp.arin.net/pub/stats/arin/delegated-arin-latest
ftp://ftp.lacnic.net/pub/stats/lacnic/delegated-lacnic-latest
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/stats/delegated-ripencc-latest
ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/pub/stats/afrinic/delegated-afrinic-latest

Anyone got anything else good, anyone?

dstiles




msg:4523370
 9:48 pm on Nov 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

The MS lists are (mostly) very short ranges! A real pain to add to blocklists. Probably worth doing, though, if they are clouds.

The v=spf returns are for mail (part of DKIM encoding/checking) - they specify IPs that can send mail so are probably not a threat to web servers.

Update:

Looking more closely at the MS ranges: some can be concatenated; others I already have listed as bot IPs. Does that mean they are changing usage?

incrediBILL




msg:4523391
 11:40 pm on Nov 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

From what I read the Google SPF lists are pretty all encompassing because the change IPs for stuff all the time and that's pretty much the list I had too. Says right on their website that it's where to get the definitive list of IPs and that comment was in the Google Developer section I think and wasn't an email discussion.

MS IP usage is all over the map so who knows. I think any IP is fair game at MS to be used for anything.

I just want sources that I can download and process automatically and keep updated without going stale and these look good so far but you're right, the MS list needs some concatenation.

dstiles




msg:4523708
 8:38 pm on Nov 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

It figures that G would abuse the spf system. :(

I've been wanting to ban G mail for a long time but my customers and their customers still insist on using it.

A while ago I began blocking all "bot company" IP ranges except for known bot IPs. This seems to block some "mobile" proxies but since Y and G seem to use these IPs indiscriminately, tough.

thetrasher




msg:4524141
 1:44 pm on Dec 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

From the Azure XML file:
<network>65.55.192.0/19</network>
Now I see "msnbot-media/1.1 (+http://search.msn.com/msnbot.htm)" coming from 65.55.211.186 <=> msnbot-65-55-211-186.search.msn.com. This Azure IP list is garbage.

blend27




msg:4524154
 2:38 pm on Dec 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

I started using BGP Toolkit from Hurricane Electric site for finding IP Ranges that belong to specific organization/colo/datacenters a while back. These are on more granular level. Seems to work OK.

Goog IPs for example: bgp.he.net/search?search[search]=google .
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The RIR lists from FTP Sites that incrediBILL mentioned are also pulled on monthly bases and processed into a DB. Also have a subscription for ip2location DB.

Bewenched




msg:4524204
 8:42 pm on Dec 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

Interesting stuff for sure. I use ip2location as well, but maxmind has a really great one as well that I use on an ad need basis. You can look up 25 per hour free on their site.
GeoIP City
GeoIP Country
GeoIP Region
GeoIP Organization (I especially like this one)
GeoIP ISP
GeoIP Netspeed
GeoIP Domain Name

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