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Blackhat SEO
Blackhat SEO
jointsurgery




msg:4378542
 7:01 am on Oct 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

Is Blackhat SEO good for your website health?

 

viggen




msg:4378543
 7:05 am on Oct 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

look at the serps you follow, should answer your question, no?

canadafred




msg:4385762
 3:47 am on Nov 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Black Hat SEO can be extremely beneficial for your website's ranking and ranking sustainability, provided the search engine doesn't detect it.

AnkitMaheshwari




msg:4385775
 4:30 am on Nov 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Blackhat SEO might give you some good results really fast but in a long run it will be a disaster for the website. In other words it is a short term ploy and certainly not good for any good business.

lucy24




msg:4385782
 5:28 am on Nov 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

It's like asking "Does crime pay?" If you need to ask, the answer is no. But for some people, it pays extremely well. How do you think Las Vegas got its start? ;)

digital signage




msg:4401456
 10:29 am on Dec 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

Black Hat SEO is bad or not you should avoid it anway, because it can get you banned from the search engines, or at least reduce your ranking. Google has been known to remove sites it felt weren't playing fair. Granted, this isn't likely, but why take that risk? Also, much Black Hat SEO involves some fairly technical work. If this article is your introduction to SEO, you likely don't have the skills to be a successful Black Hatter anyway -- at least one who doesn't get caught.

pageoneresults




msg:4401490
 2:46 pm on Dec 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

What is Blackhat SEO?

canadafred




msg:4406154
 1:42 pm on Jan 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

Black hat search engine optimisation is an extreme form of search engine manipulation. There are a variety of SEO techniques that can be deployed both on-site and off-site that could be considered blackhat. The most common types of black hat optimizers today attempt link building schemes in hopes of propelling web pages to the top of the search engine results. Grey hat search engine optimization is that trendy SEO you read about in forums like this, again, the most common are artificial link building strategies. White Hat Search Engine Optimizers, on the other hand, concentrate on working the content and the on-site / on-page optimizable components. White hats allow off-site ranking influences to take care of themselves. Ethical SEO is a far classier marketing method than both grey and black hat. Whitehat search engine optimization reflects the client's corporate image positively whereas any degree of search engine manipulation is a stain on a company's reputation, makes it look a company that plays dirty tricks to get your attention; it's a black eye to a pristine appearing web page; an illusion that the web page is of value whereas it is only made to appear important due to some sneaky abracadabra.

Future




msg:4406157
 1:52 pm on Jan 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

How to do Blackhat SEO ?

Yulia from DNP




msg:4407777
 4:50 pm on Jan 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

It can bump you up but when search engine detects it, well.. bad.
I suggest that you read about black hat seo strategies in more relevant threads, you will get much more info . For example you can go to Black hat world forum .

indusharma




msg:4425446
 8:04 am on Mar 6, 2012 (gmt 0)


According to me black hat seo in not good for your site seo .You have go fo manual seo.

packmage




msg:4431145
 3:47 am on Mar 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

Blank hat SEO is a shortcut for ranking high on google in relatively short time. For professionals, they know how to maintain the ranking by using black hat seo so that their website won't blocked by google, for ordinary webmasters black hat seo will put their website into high risk.

John_Dale




msg:4431678
 10:48 am on Mar 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Never, if you want long and happy health of your website, generally black hat techniques useful for short term results but it will be bad effect over search engine and they have rights to penalize your website if your doing black hat.

john515




msg:4433829
 8:41 am on Mar 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

Black Hat SEO is unethical way to promote a website. It doesn't follows the rules and regulation of search engine. It also affect your website and it's not good for your website health.

johnsonlogic




msg:4442438
 12:37 pm on Apr 18, 2012 (gmt 0)

Black hat seo is an unethical technique which are applied by web users to get shortcut success.
This is a technique which don't follow search engine's rules. And these techniques are harmful for a site or web page.

woofwoof




msg:4443191
 11:28 pm on Apr 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

Is this thread an Xrumer test?

leadegroot




msg:4443925
 12:21 pm on Apr 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

define 'good', define 'health' and state what sort of timeframe you are interested in.

bsand715




msg:4443932
 1:34 pm on Apr 22, 2012 (gmt 0)


What is Blackhat SEO?

Depends what mood the Google incharge PHD for the day wakes up in that did't get his way the last time he/she was incharge.

bsand715




msg:4443934
 1:47 pm on Apr 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

Blank hat SEO is a shortcut for ranking high on google in relatively short time.


Oh my! Are you saying one webmaster can manipulate the largest websearch company in the world with over 50 PHDs working for them in order to obtain a montary reward?

Can we find the guys that made 50,000 a month for a year before they got banned and ask them?

saovietxulynuoc




msg:4463823
 9:01 am on Jun 11, 2012 (gmt 0)

I think you also have the answer

mark100




msg:4498190
 10:24 am on Sep 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

BlackHat SEO is a good way to get traffic for your websites but what are your thoughts about WhiteHat Seo?

[edited by: mademetop at 10:42 am (utc) on Sep 21, 2012]
[edit reason] No links please [/edit]

mark_roach




msg:4498235
 1:32 pm on Sep 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

I prefer to follow this guy who is a GreenHat Seo [en.wikipedia.org]

incrediBILL




msg:4498583
 1:32 pm on Sep 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

Black hat seo is an unethical technique which are applied by web users to get shortcut success.
This is a technique which don't follow search engine's rules


Screw search engine rules.

I used to be a squeaky clean White Hatter and did everything by the SE rules book and along comes Penguin and Panda and a massively successful 15 year old site gets flushed down the toilet.

Do whatever it takes to make money NOW, the search engines do.

Just don't dip into the hacking area of Black Hat, as some things may be slightly shady and considered unethical, oh boo hoo, but other things the BHs are now doing are flat out illegal and should be avoided at all costs.

Truth is whether you do White or Black methods you run the risk of getting your site trashed these days so the only thing is don't whine if your site gets dumped if you're doing riskier things, it's gambling, and many are getting paid well doing it but they know the risks involved and have a PLAN B if they lose one site, there are always many more.

When you play the riskier game you need to step up the volume of the sites created and vary the methods and techniques used per site to avoid losing them all at once which can happen if you leave any easily identifiable fingerprints.

Multiple servers, multiple IPs, multiple templates ... minimize trackability so you don't lose your entire network of sites.

FYI, I'm not advocating BH but you need to almost act like a BH these days with varying servers, IPs and templates just to avoid the next Google update trashing ALL your sites.

morganstanly




msg:4499282
 11:16 am on Sep 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

Blackhat SEO is prohibited by search engine. IF you use Blackhat SEO for you website, than your website is banned permanently in search engine.

Leosghost




msg:4499297
 12:25 pm on Sep 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

IF you use Blackhat SEO for you website, than your website is banned permanently in search engine.

Rubbish, totally untrue..!

incrediBILL




msg:4499339
 1:41 pm on Sep 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

Blackhat SEO is prohibited by search engine. IF you use Blackhat SEO for you website, than your website is banned permanently in search engine.


Nonsense.

Lots of sites have been reincluded after being penalized.

Worse case you get a new domain name and move on, big whoop.

Besides, what do you think is Black Hat anyway?

Link Buying? I don't do that but it can get you in trouble.

Keyword stuffing?

Cloaking? I do that but not to trick search engines and even my legit reasons for cloaking could cause trouble with search engines. The only page I cloak is robots.txt as I only show the search engine requesting robots.txt THEIR robots.txt data only and I was told even that was considered cloaking. TOO BAD. My site and it's none of Google's business what's in the robots.txt file that I show other search engines. Think about why Google wants to see a full robots.txt file for just a second, similar reasons scrapers want to see the whole file.

blackpixel




msg:4499344
 1:51 pm on Sep 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

Blackhat in todays google is a good choice, I know I never imagined that I would go blackhat, but by looking at the serps I think I'm gonna it...

Blackhat - spamming all possible sites to get your linkcode placed there and other tactics to make search engines believe that your site is awesome.

bsand715




msg:4499347
 1:56 pm on Sep 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

I used to be a squeaky clean White Hatter and did everything by the SE rules book and along comes Penguin and Panda and a massively successful 15 year old site gets flushed down the toilet.


Yep me to ,only 8 years.

I want to believe a lot of webmasters always tried hard to play by the (Googles) rules. Google changed we did not.

I still believe in doing the right thing but---

Now I wish I knew how to play on the dark side:)

SevenCubed




msg:4499358
 2:28 pm on Sep 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

I was reading in another thread about people having problems when using Piwik. My first thought that came to mind was to put the Piwik script in a div wrapped in php and sniff UA to hide it from googlebot. I know that's considered cloaking, and to some extent it might be considered blackhat but it seems very warranted. They are beginning to plunge too deep into wells and are now stirring up debris that settles to the bottom and making non-existing connections to data that can lead to grief for webmasters. As many point out here due to google's refusal to play by their own rules more people are going to begin using alternate methods to prevent their sites from sinking into oblivion. I have no doubt there are legitimate uses of blackhat techniques as long as they are not intended to manipulate SERPs but applied to protect one's own site from further harm caused by google's stupidity.

As a side note I'm wondering if messing with Piwik in this manner is an underhanded way of trying to eliminate Piwik, the competitor of GA. If the non-existing linking comes into play on a massive scale where it begins affecting ranking a webmaster might be inclined to ditch Piwik and go back to GA...just my humble opinion of course :)

lucy24




msg:4517459
 8:51 am on Nov 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

If the non-existing linking comes into play on a massive scale

Missed this post when it first came out. But the timing is good, because I noticed just recently-- maybe a week or two back?-- that google must have got piwik figured out. At least it no longer claims that my art studio's site links to my own site from every single page.

:: detour to wmt here to make sure it's still counting the one "real" link ::

Whew.

propos of nothing: if a page calls itself blahblah/index.html in the URL, links from that page will be counted twice. Once from blahblah/ and once from the full name. One of the oldest pages on my son's site links to one of the oldest pages on mine. He does not listen to his mother when it comes to URL format ;)

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