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Is 301 Redirect info stored in the cached page?
flanok




msg:4606376
 11:33 am on Aug 31, 2013 (gmt 0)

I am currectly trying to recover a large site from Google panda.

The process has involved rewriting all content and changing directory structure that involves removing old cached content then redirecting to new content in new directory.

But I now have a question

When I fetch googlebot to tell google the page has moved I get this info


HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:44:33 GMT
Server: Apache
Location: My New Page
Content-Length: 322
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<html><head>
<title>301 Moved Permanently</title>
</head><body>
<h1>Moved Permanently</h1>
<p>The document has moved <a href="my new page">here</a>.</p>
<hr>
<address>Apache Server at my server Port 80</address>
</body></html>

Is this information stored in the cache of the old page?

If so when I attept to remove the old page and cache (wich lasts for 90 days or permanent with robots.text file.)
Am I removing the cache of the old page and therefore removing the information of the redirect?

More Information
The reason why I am attepting to remove the page and redirect is that many months after applying redirects, I still seem to have stored information within webmaster tools that indicates old cached information and old content is still stored and being used for ranking purposes.
These pages are not listed in the main index, but could be in a suplimental index.
I wanted to make sure that old page info is removed.

 

g1smd




msg:4606423
 3:54 pm on Aug 31, 2013 (gmt 0)

If you have a redirect in place you do not need to remove anything.

The redirect already says "it ain't here - look over there".

WMT data doesn't exactly reflect the real world. I'd let Google figure it out.

Are you sure they can still crawl the old URLs and are doing so? Do not block with robots.txt.

flanok




msg:4606425
 4:14 pm on Aug 31, 2013 (gmt 0)

yes they can crawl the urls, although for a week during this process I did add them, but then removed them from robots txt.

It was when I found cached content in WMT that was at least 9 months old, that I felt I needed to force google to remove its cache using the remove tool.
The redirects had been done 9 months ago through htaccess.

But then later thought, have I tried to removed a cached version that is no longer there, or have I removed a cached page that has 301 redirect information on it. As I said these pages are no longer in the index.

Some more recent redirects of old pages are still listed in the index, but the old pages dont appear to have any cached verion, so I assume the redirect has now been found and has no value and just waiting to drop off.

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