grandpa - 6:09 pm on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

are there any *real* chat rooms left for serious chat?

Yep. The one I visit regularly is a well moderated, niche specific (recovery related), Java powered platform. You won't find me in too many 'community' rooms anymore, or IRC. Too many bozos on that bus already, they don't need another.