blairsp - 3:03 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

No I didn't say that I believed it. What I was saying is that NO-ONE except G knows how good or bad their click fraud detection is. What I do firmly believe though is that I would be amazed if any new company in any field were brilliant immediately at what they do. Were some mistakes/assumptions made early in the process.

In reply to the poster above you, can G have too much info? Can their processing of that info be muddled?

I am against click fraud as much as anyone, it is simply theft, pure and simple.

However (and perhaps my thinking is jaundiced here) I do believe some people are thrown out of adsense who HAVEN'T committed any crime. In a lot of the other threads I notice the viewpoint is hardening with WebmasterWorld posters. We appear to be back to the view that everyone is guilty and that G is infallible.

I would happily have let ANYONE (especially here) or anyone at G look at ANY part of my site/logs/IP's/stats if they would have told me what I was guilty of.

However, I am lucky in that I have moved on, actually I am probably more lucky as I am now making 4 times with a rival(starts with an A) than what I was with G. I just wonder how many others haven't been as lucky or don't have any alternatives as not every rival has the same geographical spread as G.

To put this firmly back on topic I wonder if serious rivals emerge for G what their response would be to:
a publisher EASILY banning IP addresses(including their own)
showing what PAGE earned the click through (rather than channels)
paypal/direct payment
etc