It's not the point. My client should have the choice. Nobody advised him to use flash or not, it was his choice. But I find it unfair, that he now has a professional looking web presentation and is unable to promote it, even though it has all the relevent info. Checking with stats, our target audience does not want to see a text homepage, they want to see a professional animated intro about the company. It is unfortunate that our client's site is the only relevent one for certain keyword combinations, yet is below irrelevant sites, simply because it looks professional. Whether you like it or not, Flash is the future. The internet is now faster for almost everyone, making flash a viable option. I think the search engines should grow with the time. My question to Googleguy still stands, when is this going to happen?