lucy24, thank you for your input. For some of you code gods this stuff may seem, academic. But me, two years in to this http stuff and I'm still asking novice questions partly because I'm sitting at home in my jamjams and not in a production environment where I could just nudge an answer from a mentor. So,I read books. Some authors have their way of doing things... me, I work their examples and question everything and then come here for updates, confirmation et cetera. Thanks again.