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lavazza - 7:07 am on Jun 2, 2010 (gmt 0)


You assume that Adobe.com is generated from Dreamweaver.
Could be generated on a text editor by an HTML wizard.
I can only assume that you have NOT followed the link (it's to adobe.com/products/dreamweaver/) or, if you have, you have NOT looked at the source code, which includes:

L004: <!-- InstanceBegin template="/Templates/pocket.dwt" codeOutsideHTMLIsLocked="true" -->
L017: <!-- InstanceParam name="identity" type="text" value="product.dreamweaver" -->


"Looking at the source code behind the WYISWYG Web Builder's own site, I'd be surprised if anyone can hold their breath long enough to identify (let alone fix) that tangled mess"
Again, why? What needs fixing? Where is it broken? Who, besides you, gives a cr*p what the code looks like as long as the parties involved are happy with the appearance and performance
From this, I assume that you have never been hired to maintain a site that someone else built, otherwise you would appreciate clean code

OK, using your own criticism of WWB's site (http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/), What needs fixing? Where is it broken?
Srsly... it's a nightmare, vis:

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"I am merely asking for evidence that DW (and, if you like, WWB) can be and are used to generate clean, efficient code "
And, who defines "clean" and "efficient"? Is there an industry standard like K&R is to the C language?
No standards, per se... just (informed) common sense... common enough for dozens (perhaps hundreds) of
"enthusiastic volunteers at Source Forge" to take over the maintenance of HTML Tidy, which was originally developed by Dave Raggett - who now
"works on assignment to the World Wide Web Consortium, where he is the W3C lead for Voice and Multimodal." [w3.org]

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Edited to deal with the (cr@p!) code quoted from wysiwygwebbuilder.com/ are sooooooooooo long that, if wrapped in code and pre tags, would involve the dreaded horizontal scrolling


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