Harry - 11:01 pm on Dec 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

@Incredibill

1 - "Ever hear of the "Open HandSet Alliance"? Google is just one of many names supporting it."

Right. If Google had not been one of the members of this initiative mainly advertised as Google one, there would be no Android worth its name today. It would be but one of many other "open" alternative vying for attention. Open Handset whatever is a Google toy, whether you want to admit it or not.

2-1. "AT&T network stinks, been there, done that dropped call thing, wasn't doing it again
2. iTune software stinks, wife has an iPod, we hate iTunes, wasn't doing that again"

Issues about AT&T, DRM, ITunes have nothing to do with why the majority of users have smartphones and are relatively small issues compared to the big picture. That you have issues with iTunes or AT&T is not why regular users NON GEEKS will adopt Android or not. People keep making geeky arguments instead of real arguments that are based on solid marketing metrics and an understanding of users. AT&T's bad network is only an issue in the United States. If Android is to succeed, it has to spill out of the US. I hate debating issues with people who only consider their small corner of the universe and dislike of iTunes and AT&T are just that.

"4. The Palm Pre is too tiny and too little apps support, not going down that sinkhole"

Last year, before the new batch of Android phones of 2009, Android as a platform was tiny and with too little apps support and basically a sink hole. Put a good marketing campaign and ample support from the wireless provider and the sales will be there. Last year, Android didn't sell much. Why is that? Don't tell me it's the software that's better. It's the marketing and the perception in the market that changed. Based on that alone you and a lot of other people think Google will change the world.

I'm more interested in the fundamental basics. I want to know about Google's finances and all the other stuff that is needed for the company to be taken seriously for a long time. I want to know about company morale and what's going on inside. That's what gonna determine how far Google will go. People keep saying Android this and Android that while ignoring the real fundamental thrust behind it.

Android, no matter how you pad it, is a Google project.