DVD not to get to far off topic. I occasionally use the toolbars to check Page Rank at Google. To me it plays too much into their hands for marketing purposes and tracking to add them permanently. It gives them too much a temptation to tweak for revenue. Once the tweak is done the logic is someone benefits and someone doesn’t. Based upon that some would argue good quality and some not. And as you see quality is being debated throughout this thread. There’s no definitive answer to that but there is for where the money goes.