Their days are numbered. I've been with them since GoTo days. They just seem tired and expired, kind of like the 1999 expiration credit card that they still show in my account in this long list of them. I've been thinking this for years though. The feelings got stronger back when "Panama" kept being delayed and then seeing a sad unveiling at a conference. I kept hoping but there just isn't much coherent leadership or spark. Just a long slow declining slide.