Whitey - 5:51 am on Sep 8, 2013 (gmt 0)
@Zivush- what struck you about turbocharged's response to give this comment?
To state the obvious, "advertising" is to make public declarations about the qualities and advantages of a product or business etc. But if you want your site to stick, you need more than passing traffic, you need positive engagement that holds. And I believe if done right, Google will follow.
I sense there's more to your timely response. What's going through your mind about how it could be achieved; how do you see this being played out.
@turbocharged - you're not going to attract visitors by using the disavow tool, playing with anchor text or whatever and doing more of the same thinking. You deserve better than that, and you know that complaining is not going to make your day and anyone else's day any better. You deserve some creative thinking to come to you, so that you can see the wood for the trees again.
What we appear to be seeding in this thread ( and I believe it's within your capacity to find the positive within you ) , is how you can engage with users with something to offer. Building a new site with the same thinking won't help.
Folks don't warm to complainers ( and gee, from time to time I've done enough myself ), how on earth do you think you'll attract followers for your business talking like this.
What's different about what you do? Why would users come to you? How are you communicating it? Don't hold back - be honest, and don't blame Google - it won't help you. If you need help, say it, so ....
btw - one of the things you could do post Penguin etc is put your site up for review, and you'll get some inputs from folks that want to help : [webmasterworld.com...]
Why not pitch along the lines of, here's my site for review, this is what I think is good about it, what's your view as I prepare to promote it. It's a great opportunity.
And Turbocharged [ I'm not singling you out really, you're one of hundreds of folks stuck in the mud ], why don't you join in those discussions to critique others sites. You might learn something out of it, and become much more energised for the exercise. Somehow, all of what I am saying is playing into a form of "engagement". btw - like your name, it deserves a good place.
Zivush might be stating the obvious, but there's something in that statement that catches my eye.