Planet13 - 3:32 pm on Jul 24, 2013 (gmt 0)
"...but my point was how can we assess Penguin recoveries when there does not seem to be anyone claiming a recovery with any degree of real confidence?"
There are people who claim victory over penguin and have the graphs to show it. We just can't link to them here in this forum.
I am sure you can find tales of those recoveries if you just use bing to search for them...