fathom - 7:35 pm on Jun 4, 2013 (gmt 0)
Anything is difficult if you don't know how to do it.
The inference here is that you know exactly what Penguin targets. If my inference is wrong, then join the club about Penguin - your opinion is as good as mine. But if I am right about what I infer from the above quote, then please do tell us what you know about Penguin, in plain English.
The problem with PENGUIN you're limited by your specific view of details. You have to take action in some way to create an observation and you have only one domain so it is difficult to see multiple observations to make any determination.
The problem with disconnected observations are - they are disconnected, they are random with random error is observation and implementation and you don't really don't know how to interpret all these mixed signals... e.g. if you edit your title and you gained two position in 2 days you assume your edit caused that... but that is not necessarily true.
If order to have a chance of understanding PENGUIN as it relates to a a specific domain you need to have great historically understanding of that domain... thus anyone coming here to figure out how to recover from a PENGUIN issue isn't likely to have any luck because the alleged developed experience produce "here" is in abstract form.
It isn't really user-friendly.
Your clue... PENGUIN is "by page!"... ignore the links and focus on the page(s).
Not just page, but keyword / page too. But I don't get your point anyway
The more ways you look at things the more complex you make the situation and the more data you need... so ignore keywords.
- why so cryptic?
1. you can't fix what you aren't privy to... no one can begin to help you without details and you can't provide details at WebmasterWorld.
2. mus-identification is unforgiving. Without facts that are indeed facts to an issue... we as humans will identify the first thing that looks like what we are looking for and prejudge that as the cause - even if it isn't... following that advice just makes your situation 100X more complicated
3. when my webspam goes completely unnoticed by PENGUIN - I've changed the pattern far enough to the left that is blend in with the granular background... but that really does not help anyone caught in the middle of a PENGUIN issue.
Aren't we supposed to share knowledge here?
Sharing, in general, is the cause of your problems (an opinion supported by all the noise here)... and I don't mean you specifically I mean the inexperienced DIY community at large. A doctor will do 4 years of med school and 4 years of residency before he can practice his craft on real patients on his own... and you would never think about practices medicine on anyone with just some tips and tricks (unless it is handing someone a pain killer for a headache) but you will do open heart surgeon on your own domain and within any qualified assistance and in the aftermath things look good for a time... you reward yourself... but you did that with great risk that the aftermath could be your darkest days... and now it is.
Sharing to get into trouble isn't helped by more sharing. You generally don't understand SEO best practices and what you should have avoided and there's your problem... and that is a very simplistic view of it - but that is accurate for most.
And if it's a home page that can't just be 404'd? (Penguin 1.0) - how long to wait for a recovery - when the next update comes?
For anyone struggling the best course is to stop guessing about the cause and grow a new project.
1. delete you website
2. add a sub-domain you never used before
3. place your website there
4. add a splash page at the old default page
5. add a nofollow image logo link to where the new website
6. update your sitemap and set your preference to a high priority and recrawl and once completely recrawled you are PENGUIN free.
7. start getting new links to where the website is now but if you are just doing to develop the same links and same link types as you had before this won't work.
DISCLAIMER: obviously this is a throw the baby out with the bath water approach... but it does work.
Alternatively, I believe PENGUIN is a RUN once algo (refreshes are simple changes to apply, say, false positive variables) once it has ran there is nothing to do.
If you have to develop new earned links (or currently undetectable webspam links that PENGUIN hasn't been schooled in just yet) ... just ignore PENGUIN and develop those and save yourself a lot of unwanted headaches and time.