fathom - 11:07 am on Jun 4, 2013 (gmt 0)
fathom, I find a lot of what you say unfathomable...like "PENGUIN 2.0 CANNOT detect lots!" - what does that mean? That Penguin 2.0 literally can't detect a lot of spam?
YES! They detect tons but Google's PENGUIN is trained to loom for specific patterns... you change the pattern you avoid PENGUIN.
...but to recap my own point:-
- it's been reported over and over and over across many sources that recovery from Penguin is extremely difficult and there are only rare cases of a recovery.
Anything is difficult if you don't know how to do it.
The nature of Penguin is such that Google don't want us to "backward engineer" it, so we can't understand the nature of it, so how can we hope to recover using just guess work and waiting for a refresh every 6 months?
Sounds like a TERRIBLE business model. Your suggestions of cleaning up keyword stuffing, spammy links, over-optimisation with content is as old as the hills and has been tried and tried and tried by many webmasters to no avail. My advice is to utilise your energy drawing in traffic from sources outside of Google.
YOu have different problems. You can't fix a PENGUIN problem in a public thread where the specifics violates the forum rules... that's the nature of the beast
It's really very simple... here's one example. PENGUIN is "by page" it isn't a domain thing. (who know about PENGUIN 2.0 though)
Your clue... PENGUIN is "by page!"... ignore the links and focus on the page(s).
p.s. what's the deal with capitalising PENGUIN? Do you believe it's some kind of acronym?
I've done that since April 24, 2012 because people interchange references between penguin and manual reviews so I ensure every knows I'm absolutely talking about PENGUIN exclusively.