fathom - 5:33 am on May 6, 2013 (gmt 0)
If you had bothered to read anything I wrote instead of assuming, you'd know what my issue was. But allow me to repost for you.
WebmasterWorld is not the best place to post information about your domain as you can't get into specifics which are absolutely needed to resolve anything... so assumptions are all you have here.
The advice I was given was to nofollow my own links between my sites since it looks like a link farm to the Penguin algo. I have recently done that. Within two days of doing that I saw rankings again for a handful of keywords phrases I had lost, not where they were, but not MIA anymore either. I am hoping that once a Penguin update runs, I'll regain more because I wasn't building a link farm, I crosslink for my human users, so the nofollow should take care of looking like a link farm.
Doing something and seeing change does not mean those are related... you ASSUME they are. Prove it!
It takes time for Googlebot to crawl and you can track that in your log files... did it? ... or are you just assuming it crawled all your pages (most or many) where the links are?
Rel="nofollow" categorically drops links from the link graph... (so does PENGUIN actually)... dropping links from the graph that are already dropped from the link graph changes nothing.
I do NOT have inorganic links. You insisting I do does not make it true.
My comments are based solely on yours... "you do not have a PENGUIN issue then".
I've sat here working on my websites for the past 10 years building for my users like Google says they expect. I have never received notification of unnatural linking.
In general, spam reports produce Manual Reviews, and getting an cautionary unnatural link advisory is actually a good thing... dot getting one does not mean you don't have a link problem.
When I sent a reinclusion request, I was told there is no manual penalty. The only think I've ever gotten from Google was a message on the two sites in question telling me that there was a big traffic change for the top url. Here is the exact message I got:
Search results clicks for mysite.com have decreased significantly.
The number of clicks that your site receives from Google can change from day to day for a variety of factors, including automatic algorithm updates. However, if you have recently made significant changes to the content or configuration of your site, this change may be an indication that there are problems.
This is immaterial - I assume you have been devalued for some reason. It's good to know Google reviewed and does slap you with a Manual Review but all that means is PENGUIN did it's job.
Check the Search Queries page in Webmaster Tools
Investigate whether the traffic change affects the whole site or just a few pages. Configuration changes are likely to affect the whole site
Some content is popular only for a short window of time. If the change in traffic affects only this kind of content this message may not be indicative of any problem
So at this time with the recommended actions everyone else agrees you don't have a PENGUIN problem - correct?
And you might not be rude saying that if I lost something because of PENGUIN I am not going to recover that same thing I lost because of a different PENGUIN, but it doesn't make you correct either.
I'm correct in saying:
1. If you don't have inorganic links you don't have a PENGUIN issue. Your loses are due to something else.
2. You cannot regain inorganic link juice so to regain ranks you lost and
3. All you can do is make your website better to induced more earned links