MrSavage - 7:55 pm on Nov 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

There is no hole in the theory. I'm not saying Panda only. I'm saying a GooG algo update.

I'm saying that if you tell yourself that it must be Panda for your lost rankings, you're going to find articles from so called experts and pros that have NOTHING to do with whether you site is being copied by another website. No. Experts are going to say your site has this issue or what issue and you need to do this and that.

Well, your efforts mights just be a complete waste of time if you consider duplicate content. Not on your site, but just duplicate content.

There is no hole in this because the reason I personally lost ownership of my entire site is because I lack PR and authority. The site who took my "stuff" is a PR god. Big brands have what? PR and authority. That is what's at play here. If you are strong enough, then you can get through this issue without a problem apparently.

You don't hear about this issue because? I'll say it again. It's not what the experts are telling people to look for when their sites tank in Google. That's a fact. Instead people are wasting their time and efforts when in fact they could simply tell GooG via their own form that scrapers are OUTRANKING them for their own content. People can't report what they are unaware of. People can't complain if they aren't being told what they should look for as being a possible culprit in losing all their GooG organic traffic.

This is new and this is pretty much a Goog exclusive. Enough tinkering on an algo and I guess there will be casualties. Until experts suggest starting at square one, then please don't advise.

Step one for loss of Goog traffic is determining whether you are still ranking ahead of scrapers for your own content. I shudder at the thought of what some people have done with their sites when in fact their only issue was that GooG gave a different site authority and ranking for their own content.

To clarify, all the advice here and elsewhere is about looking at your own content and site issue. Well here is the biggie here. It's nothing to do with your site at all. It all has to do with your content being attributed to somebody else who is using your content. External vs. Internal. Where are the suggestions that people look outside of their site as a possible cause for Panda or other GooG effects? This is my point.

Sorry but I'm fired up about this issue. I will go relax with a massive cup of coffee now (full of caffeine).