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Robert_Charlton - 6:41 am on Nov 22, 2012 (gmt 0)


So, I'm [slowly] trying to wrap my head around the concept of SubPubHubbub, and the only reason I looked at a protocol with the name like this is because tedster recommended it

1script - Glad you posted this, as most others here seem to be more interested in making noise than in looking into this.

I posted the following on another thread, and am reposting here....

Tedster has laid out approaches he's been trying in several posts that might be helpful to you. I'll link to a couple of threads here, with some excerpted comments from each....

How do we tell Google we were wrongly Pandalized?
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4387503.htm [webmasterworld.com]

From tedster's Nov 22, 2011 posts...
I want to emphasize that my ideas about correlation between widespread syndication and being wrongly Pandalyzed are my own conjecture, nothing proven and nothing officially communicated. It's just what seems to make the most sense for the cases that have me scratching my head....

...What I'm trying with one site is to ramp up every "we are the canonical source" signal I can muster, including authorship tagging, pubsubhubbub, delayed RSS, no more full RSS feeds, etc, etc. I'll let the forum know if it works.

There's evidence that Google "wants to" credit the original source in the SERPs, but many times a more authoritative source who is quoting in full or syndicating (even with full acknowledgement) will still rank higher.

And, on Jan 15, 2012...

Article pages not ranking since Panda 1.0
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4406778.htm [webmasterworld.com]

>>my articles get picked up by other sites<<

I recently worked with a site that had a similar issue. We made a couple of changes that seemed to improve indexing and ranking immediately.

1. Inaugurated authorship mark-up
2. Used pubsubhubbub (PuSH) to send Google "fat pings" immediately at publication
3. Delayed the standard feed until the PuSH feed was received

Please take a look at the threads and provide more relevant details about what you've done, what type of site is ranking in your place, the feed situation, and the timeline regarding when this happened.

As I'm beginning to understand it, integration PuSH Google+ authorship with PuSH feeds to notify Google before wider publication of the standard feed is the trick, but I don't have enough hands on experience to describe how to implement this. Others have mentioned some success with Google+ authorship on other threads, and I've suggested they post further details here.

PS: Off-topic comments and general noise will be deleted. Please see... IMPORTANT - The Focus of This Forum [webmasterworld.com].


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