realmaverick - 5:00 pm on Oct 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

We have a large website that I believe we're going to use the Disavow tool on.

It was definitely hit by Penguin. The site in question never ever built any links. But has a lot of natural links.

Since Penguin we have established around 1,000 spammy links from spammy sites. I spent endless hours trying to get them removed but only had limited success.

We're still not 100% sure whether to use the tool, but I feel there is no other plausible way to remove these spammy links and ultimately recover from Penguin.

We lost 40,000 daily uniques for a massively competitive, highly valuable niche. We still have 40,000 and so I guess it's a gamble but if Google are really in the game of tricking people, who are simply trying to undo damage done by somebody else, then it's a very sad day.